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Weirdest Trek novel

My nomination for weirdest Trek novel goes to:

Windows on a Lost World by V.E. Mitchell
Pocketbooks #65 1993

Kirk and Chekov go thru a "Guardian of Forever" type frame on a now uninhabited planet. This transforms them into crab-like crustaceans on the other side of said planet. Most of the book is the Enterprise crew slowly figuring out these crabs are our missing crew on the one hand, on the other we see things from the POV of Kirk and Chekov as they inhabit these crab bodies and try to figure out how to operate their bodies and get rescued. WTF?
Hair-raising premise but an excellent book, actually. The description of what it would be like to have your consciousness trapped within an entirely different type of creature, with its own autonomic system, etc was very well done. Although the premise is weird on its face, it shouldn't be put into the category of the Black Fire's of the world, and other campy-but-fun books. Windows isn't campy at all, and at some point begins to feel, dare I say, plausible?
 
Perhaps I missed it but I’m pretty surprised no one has mentioned “Nightfire” yet.

Spock becomes a pirate, the enterprise is threatened by people flying modern rockets, Spock is kept as a space cavewoman’s pet, someone writes love poetry about Spock, and Spock goes to prison. The author was obviously in love with Nimoy
I think you might be thinking of Black Fire, which is where Spock becomes a pirate. I don't remember the rockets or the cavewoman's pet stuff, but it's been a minute since I read it.
 
I've read Black Fire a few times; I suppose that (like Death's Angel, and maybe even Spock: Messiah) it might even qualify as a "guilty pleasure."

I don't think I've read Intellivore more than once or twice, but the very title itself is a callback to The Romulan Way. Diane Duane is brilliant.
 
Wasn't there stuff in Black Fire about the Enterprise getting a partial refit prior to the first movie, such that there was sort of a transition between the look and design of the TV series and that of the Motion Picture? I seem to remember that Cooper even wrote in the new uniforms, but maybe I've made that up?
 
Wasn't there stuff in Black Fire about the Enterprise getting a partial refit prior to the first movie, such that there was sort of a transition between the look and design of the TV series and that of the Motion Picture? I seem to remember that Cooper even wrote in the new uniforms, but maybe I've made that up?

Yeah, there was a refit and new uniforms, though the description doesn't really match the TMP uniforms. The book started with the bridge being bombed, so it had to be rebuilt along with much of the saucer.
 
I remember reading Black Fire and thought the story was okay .It's been along time since I read it though.
 
Well, there was David Gerrold reaching out to Robert Heinlein over the similarities between Tribbles and Flat Cats.
I realize this post is an antique, so forgive the lateness of this comment.

To our knowledge what happened was De Forest Research noted the similarity, and very late in the game Gene Coon called Heinlein to get a waiver of similarity. Then the show sent him a script (gray cover). In his Tribbles book, Gerrold relates that he autographed the script. I've handled the actual script when I was going through some materials in the Heinlein papers at UC Santa Cruz, and I saw no signature or note. Perhaps Gerrold signed a cover letter that I didn’t see (there's a LOT of correspondence).

There's some correspondence about what happened from Heinlein's side, and as of 1975 he wasn't happy about how that all went.
 
You mean Black Fire by Sonni Cooper... I've long suspected that it was originally a series of fanfic stories that Cooper compiled into a novel. But nothing in Cooper's interview about the book in Voyages of the Imagination suggested that to be the case.
It did have fanfic connections, though... After publication, not before.

From Fanlore wiki: "What was left out of the pro novel?
"'Black Fire' as a pro novel was published in January 1983.

"In 1984, Cooper, perhaps unhappy with the editing the pro book had received and seeing an opportunity to set the record straight (or wanting to help sell a zine), published addition fictional material from 'Black Fire' in the zine Infinite Diversity #5. An ad in Datazine #32 (October 1984) for that zine said: 'Do you want to know what was left out of Sonni Cooper's 'Black Fire'? Then you will want a copy of Infinite Diversity #5 (1984). [It includes] things that were changed or left out of the book."

"In 1987, Jacqueline Lichtenberg (who had feet in both the fan camp and the pro camp) commented on the differences in editing between pro books and zine fiction in regards to 'Black Fire'":

My daughter [name redacted] picked up 2 'zines at West Coast cons, INFINITE DIVERSITY #'s 5 & 6, without knowing I have known Sonni Cooper (author of both these 'zines) for many years. But the real surprise came when I opened ID#5 and found the very illo that the artist Donna Banzhof had sent me - a haunting study of Spock as Blackfire.

Despite TREKLINK's policy of avoiding analysis of the prof, market, Trekdom, pro-STdom, and even sf fandom are becoming inextricably intermixed; the moreso since ID#5 is the "out-takes" from the pro-novel BLACKFIRE. I was eager to see these cut bits especially because I had enjoyed BLACKFIRE so much.

My bifurcate taste was starkly evident as I read cut scenes from the first half of the novel. Oddly enough, even without rereading the novel, the cut scenes track very well - the editor is due applause for this feat. I enjoyed reading the bits, getting the grand, fulfilled feeling I usually get from 'zines, while at the same time the trained writer in me was going, "good cut" - "well cut" -"perfectly cut" - "pity that had to go, but it didn't belong there" - "what a shame but I'd have cut it too," - and so on to the end.

Sonni and her critics/editors did a superb professional job developing her manuscript into a pronovel. Any aspiring novelist would do well to study the novel, the "out-takes" in ID#5.


The author was obviously in love with Nimoy
Sonni Cooper ran William Shatner's fan club, was his publicist, and handled his correspondence, IIRC.
 
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Wasn't there stuff in Black Fire about the Enterprise getting a partial refit prior to the first movie, such that there was sort of a transition between the look and design of the TV series and that of the Motion Picture? I seem to remember that Cooper even wrote in the new uniforms, but maybe I've made that up?

Yes, but a similar premise happened in "Prime Directive", which sort of explains the visual differences in the TOS and TAS bridges.
 
It's a great book, but the idea behind No Time Like The Past is kind of weird, Seven of Nine goes back in time to the 23rd Century and goes on a greatest hits tour of planets from TOS episodes with Kirk while being chased by Orions.
 
It's a great book, but the idea behind No Time Like The Past is kind of weird, Seven of Nine goes back in time to the 23rd Century and goes on a greatest hits tour of planets from TOS episodes with Kirk while being chased by Orions.
Wow I knew it was a Seven, Kirk story but I love the idea of doing a trip through TOS planets! Sounds like Foundation and Earth
 
No time like the past by Greg Cox is really good I liked having Seven of nine being in the novel with Kirk's crew.
 
These two:

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It just seemed like, in both cases, they were not 'dedicated' Trek stories but used Trek elements to frame them.
 
Regarding Devil World,

There was a time during the Bantam era, when it seems like roughly every other ST novel was a rehash of the same "Kirk & co. start mucking about in something way above their pay grade" premise that worked rather well for Planet of Judgment, but quickly became stale and hackneyed. And I refer to those novels as:

The Starless World, World Without End, Perry's Planet, and the ever-popular Devil World.

Somehow, Devil World just doesn't have quite the same ring to it without prefixing the title with "the ever-popular."

As to Demons, you do realize that, at the time, J. M. Dillard (Jeanne Kalogridis) had kind of a thing going with writing horror fiction set in the ST milieu. It started with Mindshadow, but really got going with Demons and Bloodthirst (a vampire story set in the ST milieu). And she went back into it, a decade later, writing Possession, a direct, TNG-era sequel to Demons.
 
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As to Demons, you do realize that, at the time, J. M. Dillard (Jeanne Kalogridis) had kind of a thing going with writing horror fiction set in the ST milieu. It started with Mindshadow, but really got going with Demons and Bloodthirst (a vampire story set in the ST milieu). And she went back into it, a decade later, writing Possession, a direct, TNG-era sequel to Demons.
Yes....oddly enough, I liked Bloodthirst quite well, even though I'm not a big fan of vampire fiction in general. I will have to grab a copy of Possession, just for the curiosity factor. Thanks for the heads-up on that one. :cool:
 
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