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Weird Canadian Military commander pleads guilty to murder, etc.

Sentenced to two life terms.
Of course, they're concurrent, not consecutive. Canada doesn't impose consecutive sentences. Kill 1 or 100 you'll serve the same amount of time.

Also, the maximum you can serve before parole eligibility is 25 years. So being in his 40s he could be out in time to still be a danger to society.

The government could have applied to have him declared a dangerous offender, like they did with Bernardo, which could keep him jailed indefinitely, but for some reason they didn't, possibly because he spared everyone a trial by pleading guilty.

It all happened much faster than usual for murder charges, too. It's not unusual for there to be 2-3 years between arrest and trial up here, and this was less than a year. That may be due to the fact that they had it all on video of course.
 
Sentenced to two life terms.
Of course, they're concurrent, not consecutive. Canada doesn't impose consecutive sentences. Kill 1 or 100 you'll serve the same amount of time.

Also, the maximum you can serve before parole eligibility is 25 years. So being in his 40s he could be out in time to still be a danger to society.

How likely is it that he would actually be approved for parole?

I can't speak for the whole US, but in my state, lifers are eligible for parole after 25 years, too (unless they were specifically sentenced to life w/o parole). They get their parole hearings, but they're rarely approved.
 
Sentenced to two life terms.
Of course, they're concurrent, not consecutive. Canada doesn't impose consecutive sentences. Kill 1 or 100 you'll serve the same amount of time.

Also, the maximum you can serve before parole eligibility is 25 years. So being in his 40s he could be out in time to still be a danger to society.

How likely is it that he would actually be approved for parole?

I can't speak for the whole US, but in my state, lifers are eligible for parole after 25 years, too (unless they were specifically sentenced to life w/o parole). They get their parole hearings, but they're rarely approved.


Apparently the reason why they went through so much detail after he plead guility was to ensure that full details of his crime went on the record. So when in 25 years he comes up for parole it's all going to be there. All physical evidence will now (if it hasn't been already) be destroyed so the court records will be the influence in any parole hearing.
 
Sentenced to two life terms.
Of course, they're concurrent, not consecutive. Canada doesn't impose consecutive sentences. Kill 1 or 100 you'll serve the same amount of time.

Also, the maximum you can serve before parole eligibility is 25 years. So being in his 40s he could be out in time to still be a danger to society.

The government could have applied to have him declared a dangerous offender, like they did with Bernardo, which could keep him jailed indefinitely, but for some reason they didn't, possibly because he spared everyone a trial by pleading guilty.

It all happened much faster than usual for murder charges, too. It's not unusual for there to be 2-3 years between arrest and trial up here, and this was less than a year. That may be due to the fact that they had it all on video of course.

Yeah I don't agree with the concurrent sentence they should be consecutive (We need to change the law).

anyhow being a civilian who works with the military
we got a general e-mail sent to everyone one the other day
from General Natynczyk;
have a read.

CDS Message: Mr. Russell Williams
1. On 21 Oct 10, Mr. Russell Williams, former Commander of 8 Wing, was sentenced to two concurrent terms of life in prison with no chance of parole for 25 years for the first-degree murders of Cpl Marie France Comeau and Mrs. Jessica Lloyd.

2. The crimes committed by Mr. Williams are deeply upsetting to us all. Over the last few months, I have spoken with many of you in town halls across the country and on missions overseas. Like all Canadians, you and I have been shocked and repulsed by the crimes he committed.

3.During these conversations, you expressed your sympathy and compassion for the victims and the families affected by this terrible tragedy. I also listened to Canadian Forces personnel of all ranks as they expressed their bewilderment and anger at the betrayal of our institutional ethos of truth, duty, and valour. Because of his heinous crimes and his subsequent criminal conviction, Mr. Williams has lost the privilege of calling himself a member of the CF community.

4.With the conviction and sentencing completed, and following my recommendation, the Governor General has revoked his commission, an extraordinary and severe decision that may constitute a first of its kind in Canadian history.

5. Further, the following actions will now be taken:
A.Stripping Mr. Williams of his medals
B.Termination and recovery of his pay from the date of arrest
C.Denial of severance pay; and
D.His prompt release from the CF under “service misconduct” – which is the most serious release item possible.

6. As a consequence of his release from the CF for quote service misconduct unquote and of the revocation of his commission, Mr. Williams no longer possesses a rank as a member of the CF.

7. I wish to point out that under the CF superannuation act, there are no grounds to revoke his pension and a court martial would not have any impact on these accrued benefits.

8. Some have questioned why Mr. Williams has not also been charged under the military justice system. I believe we need to understand why this is so. This is because there is no jurisdiction under the code of service discipline to try persons charged with murder where those murders took place in Canada. Mr. Williams was therefore tried and convicted of all of these 88 charges under the Criminal Code of Canada by a civilian court. Additionally there will be no further court martial on these matters because the National Defence Act specifically prevents an individual from being tried by court martial where the offence or any other substantially similar offence arising out of the same underlying facts have been previously dealt with by a civilian court. This basic principle sometimes known as “double jeopardy” is fundamental within our civilian and military justice system. With his current convictions and sentence to life imprisonment justice has already been served.

9.Now more than ever, this is a time for us to come together and heal as a community. We are doing everything we can to assist those in need of counselling or other support. I urge anyone who is feeling upset or concerned to seek assistance and to talk about it. While doing so, we will not forget Cpl Marie France Comeau, Mrs. Jessica Lloyd, and the many other victims and their families who will remain in our thoughts and prayers forever.

10.It is time to move forward, be strong and proud because the actions of Mr. Williams are not reflective of the values of the men and women who serve in the CF, whose integrity and self sacrifice come through loud and clear in words and deeds each day. Whether helping Canadians at home, abroad, or providing the hope of a better future to the people of Haiti, Africa or Afghanistan, I have seen our ethos of truth, duty, and valour at work and making a difference in the world. You have reason to hold your head high. Be strong and proud! I am proud to be your Chief of the Defence Staff.

General W.J. Natynczyk, CDS

They should look into to revamping No. 7 so that in the future if something similar happens pensions can be revoked.
 
There was a bill in Parliament that could have meant he wouldn't be eligible for parole for 50 years, but it died when Parliament was prorogued last year.

It's since been reintroduced, but of course, won't be retroactive.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2010/10/22/williams-parole.html

Harper bleated through the prorogument that the Liberals were delaying bills relating to law and order - yet his actions spiked them and they did fuck all when Parliament resumed.
 
Honestly, after reading what this degenerate did; I still have to wonder why some people are against the death penalty;

Because some people's opposition to the death penalty has absolutely nothing to do with the severity of people's crimes.

If you wonder that, then you haven't been paying attention to people's arguments at all. :vulcan:
 
Interrogation/Confession.
OPP Det. Sgt. Jim Smyth discusses evidence with Col. Russell Williams in a videotaped interrogation Feb 7, 2010. This is an excerpt of a two-hour, forty-minute video that was played during Williams' sentencing hearing in Belleville Oct. 20, 2010.

Pt1
[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzh3adTWZOg[/yt]

Pt2
[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ah51vPzcVEM[/yt]


Pt3
[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mQA2yQFZ8o[/yt]
 
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