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Weeds S2-4 thoughts

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Over the last week or two I've been working through seasons two through four of Weeds on DVD (I watched the first season and enjoyed it on Showcase (Canadian Showtime), but fell out of watching it between seasons and recently decided to catch up). Huge Mary-Louise Parker fan ever since The West Wing and Angels in America (hottest actress over 40 currently working, in my opinion).

It's fascinating to watch the tone of the show evolve as Nancy plunges deeper and deeper into the drug business; sort of like how Harry Potter gradually got grimmer as Harry got older. In the first season Nancy was sort of the more profane, drug-dealing Desperate Housewife; by the end of season four, DEA agents are getting tortured to death with power-sanders and she's (apparently) pregnant by the mayor/drug kingpin of the Tijuana border. Basically, it used to be a comedy with some dramatic elements, and now it's a drama with a quirky/perverse sense of humour (usually picked up by characters like Andy and Doug, the latter of whom has been becoming increasingly marginalized; his "suicide" in the finale was hilarious).
 
I'm definitely enjoying the evolving tone of the show as everything spirals more and more out of control for poor Nancy. I do miss the innocence of the first season at times but I like the progression. It seems natural in it's fucked up, quirky, sort of way. I hope she can keep it together, but with a crew like hers, I mean talk about useless. But it's family so what ya gunna do? I can sympathize.
 
I've definitely noticed the evolving tone of the show, I'm just not certain if I like it or not. I kind of feel like the show jumped the shark a little when Nancy burned the house down.
 
I like how it evolved, but it got to the point where it is just insanely ridiculous. Nancy should have smartened up several times now, and in the end never grows as a character. It's really just sloppy writing.
 
See, that's part of it for me. Nancy is just unforgivably stupid at this point, and I do not like or respect the character anymore. I expected her to have smartened up by now. At first, I just thought she was being self-delusional, but now she's just stupid and irresponsible.

It's like they went from quirky, smart storytelling to trying to figure out how to shock the viewers a few times a season and ultimately end the season on a clever cliffhanger.
 
Nancy's a serial maker of bad choices.

I have to say, the promo for S5 looks pretty good, particularly the bits relating to Celia.:lol:
 
Anything Celia is auto-win. :lol:

Regarding Nancy, it's just hard for me to sympathize with idiots.
 
I'm hoping the series regains some of the humor it's lost. It has gotten too dark at times and serious. It always had a touch of the seriousness to it but now it's starting to get into heavy drama.
 
The season that starts tonight is the second to the last season for the show, they better try to make Nancy somewhat likable again before next season. I mean season 3 was a fun ending that she could have started here life somewhere new and out of danger, and she didn't, and grew dumb in season 4. The first few seasons she was completely out of it, and I think she started to realize that she couldn't be stopped, but now everytime someone stops here and she realizes she is in great danger she doesn't change anything. I have heard the first half a season she still is a dumbass! The ending last season with her in the car driving to Mexico and trying to get a gift was top notch, her in the bath tub realizing she was a fuck up was top notch, and now it seems we open season five with her being stupid again! That just cheapens everything from the season finale.

Also if you watch tonight I think the funniest part of the show will be Shane. This episode takes place right after the season finale, but Shane looks 4 years older. :lol:
 
I definitely agree with you, bigdaddy. For me, personally, they could have ended the show at the end of season three and I'd have been fine, because I felt like that was where the original premise kind of died. Still, I enjoy the other characters besides Nancy, but I do hope they work hard to make her more sympathetic. I would be more able to sympathize with her and like her if she just wasn't so damn stupid. At least she acknowledges that she's a fuck-up.

Also, isn't it remarkable that the actor that plays Shane was the voice of Nemo in "Finding Nemo"? That just cracks me up. :rommie:
 
I loved the first three seasons and tolerated most of the fourth, but I think the fifth season is going to be more focused. I can't wait until it airs!
 
The show has really evolved from from a dark comedy to a dramedy with the silliness to a drama where any of the characters could die at any moment except the writers wouldn't do that.

Tonight's episode was fine, but yet another "I realize I'm a fuck up". I personally have fucked up a lot in my life, but I at least realize it!

Best line of the night, and maybe the last few seasons...

"Dad would be so proud." - Silas to his mother

Honestly if the next season really is the last (and it most likely is) than maybe they should just kill off Nancy this season and deal with that next season. She is a horrible human being, and I think the only way to save her is if she died saving someone.
 
Kevin Nealon and Andy alone make that show for me.

Screw Nancy. A Kevin and Andy show would be perfect.
 
cabby said:
Kevin Nealon and Andy alone make that show for me.

Screw Nancy. A Kevin and Andy show would be perfect.
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That's what I'm saying! Kill off Nancy this season and they can use net season as a prep year for a spinoff! :)
 
The first episode of Season Five (Showcase, you could aire this show on time, or even give some indication of when you will, but you don't, so fuck you) was pretty good. It's part-epilogue and part setup, but solid (ending was a bit on the random side).

Shane sure grew a lot in the couple of hours that occurred between Nancy leaving and coming back, eh.;)

The stuff with Celia, Quinn, and Rudolfo was probably the highlight of the episode. Celia was ultimately saved by the facts that she was a huge bitch and had cancer.
 
Woohoo! Weeds is back!

I've liked every season, and have no worries that this one will deliver as well. Laughed out loud that no one would pay the ransom on poor Celia, and Nancy is still as fucked up as usual. Too bad about Shane though, hope he comes back.
 
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