Spoilers We now have Ship Class names for BotBS

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by Tuskin38, Nov 4, 2017.

  1. Gonzo

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    Yeah Blue has always been considered stun or if on a ship more effective at draining shields and/or power systems.

    Red/Orange and even into Yellow was always considered straight forward energy based damage used by phasers and phase cannons or whatever it is that the Abramsprise and Nx01 used.

    Green has always been plasma based weaponry both for ships and personal weapons used by both the Klingons and the Romulans quite often having the side effect of disintegration at high settings.

    I think the Cardassians is orange on their ships.
     
  2. Gonzo

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    No surprise really, the show is mainly for the US Pay Per View market and as such using more American & Native ship names is a no brainer really.
     
  3. cooleddie74

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    The Shepard-class is probably my favorite class of Federation starship in the new show, at least of the ones we've already seen. The Gagarin was the nicest-looking Starfleet vessel from the first nine episodes.
     
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    Agreed! That thing is a beauty!
     
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  5. starsuperion

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    I'd love to see some norse mythology names added. Like the U.S.S. Oden, or U.S.S. Thor. Or maybe some other people like a science ship, the U.S.S. Einstein. Or maybe a few ancient names, like the U.S.S. Atlantis. Etc..would be fun.
     
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  6. cooleddie74

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    In my fanfic and short stories going back at least seventeen years the hero ship of my 24th century works is named the Andromeda. Yeah, yeah, I know. Not canon. ;) But I do go out of my way to name vessels after more than just American and British naval tradition and historical figures.
     
  7. Timo

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    ...Then again, Greco-Roman mythology is a very Western thing, too. Lots of British ships named after that exotic princess whom the Greek wanted to think of as Ethiopian, say.

    Skipping the Greek and going directly to the source would be refreshing. But a USS Mkrb might simply be too weird...

    Timo Saloniemi
     
  8. Jackson_Roykirk

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    I realize that this is an old post in an old thread, but as long as someone else resurrected it....

    ...Your post reminds me of the point made in the Hitchhiker's Guide that every culture in the Universe has a drink that has a name sounding like "Gin and Tonic".
    :)
     
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  9. DaveyNY

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    That would be perfect...
    It's just the way Tellarites say "U.S.S. Microbe", in order to piss people off and start an argument.

    Hummmmnnn...
    That's a lot like the way some Trek Fans act.

    <chuckle>
     
  10. Markonian

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    More on ships, Eaglemoss is giving us ship length for the Walker (423m) and Crossfield (750m) classes:

     
  11. pst

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  12. Crazy Eddie

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    Same for me. I actually like it as much if not more than the Shenzhou. Discovery continues to grown on me, but the Shepard class retains the top spot so far.
     
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  13. Crazy Eddie

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    What's weird about it? Discovery and Shenzhou both have warp nacelles that account for half of their length. Put those same engines on a TOS Constitution and it would come out to around 600 meters long.
     
  14. pst

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    i'm mostly just being funny, the size of these ships is immaterial to my enjoyment of the series, as it was with the kelvin timeline flicks.

    but no it's not just the length of the nacelles that would contribute to these inflated dimensions. the primary hulls themselves would have to be significantly larger than what we expect for ships from this era to clock in at those lengths.

    consider the enterprise-E, a ship which features similarly long nacelles. its primary hull is roughly the size of an entire constitution-class ship. the same would have to be true of discovery, which in fact, is actually still 60 meters longer than the E by these numbers.

    i'm just not sure i think these numbers are accurate.
     
  15. Crazy Eddie

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    No, they really wouldn't. I'm not just eyeballing that, I've literally measured this out a couple of times. Discovery's secondary hull isn't a whole lot larger than the Constitution class, even of it is more voluminous on account of its delta-wing shape. Shenzhou, likewise, has a saucer slightly larger than the Constitution but a much smaller secondary hull overall.

    Not that this alone makes a difference. Very few people are aware that Reliant, despite a shorter overall length, is actually 10% larger (by volume) than the Enterprise. Discovery probably isn't that much larger by volume either, and Shenzhou is DEFINITELY smaller.

    Not similar at all. Enterprise-E's nacelle length only accounts for about a third of its length. Compare this to the Enterprise-C or D, however, whose nacelles barely extend behind the fantail. Hell, just the Battle Section of the Enterprise-D is almost four times the volume of the A-, despite being similar in length.

    Length is not the same thing as size. Shenzhou is a much smaller ship than the TOS Enterprise, it just has a much longer nacelle length.

    They're accurate. The VFX artists aren't even being coy about this, the ships are designed at a scale that is remarkably (and refreshingly) consistent with the scale of the set designs they're supposed to represent. Even the Enterprise-D didn't have that going for it.
     
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  16. pst

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    quick and dirty, with one pixel for every meter:
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    these starships dwarf the constitution-class. we could remove the nacelles and they'd still be giants.

    it's almost like they're precursors to some other, much larger starships, from some other universe...
     
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    YES YES FUCKING YES!!!!!!

    :lol::lol::guffaw::rofl::lol::lol:

    Highlight of my day:cool:
     
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  18. Markonian

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    Cool image! :bolian:

    I’ve been thinking, maybe the newer ships (late-Voyager, DSC, STO, Kelvin) are not too large, and instead the original ones are just tiny. 300m for a capital ship? My walkway down the street to the shops is longer than that!
     
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  19. Christopher

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    That can't be right, given that Discovery reportedly has a crew complement of only 136, well below the Enterprise's Pike-era complement of 203. These classes should be smaller than the Connie. Is it possible those numbers are supposed to be in feet instead of meters?


    The longest naval vessel ever built, the aircraft carrier Enterprise CVN-65, was 342 meters long. The Yamato class ships in WWII, the largest battleships in existence at the time, were 263 meters long. There is nothing "tiny" about a 300-meter ship. It's actually pretty gigantic.
     
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  20. pst

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    feet would definitely make these ships too small. it would reverse the problem and discovery (even with her long ass nacelles) would be just over half the size of the constitution-class. she would be roughly the same size as the NX-class (225 meters NX vs 228 meters discovery) with maybe a third of the habitable space.
     
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