We have Pike confirmed for the new movie. What about Number One?

[I am not Spock]

Since we'll be seeing Pike, as portrayed in Trek XI by Bruce Greenwood, what do you think the odds are that we might see Number One, or Yeoman Colt, or Dr Boyce, or any of the other 'The Cage' characters?

Connor Trineer would make an awesome Lee Kelso from WNMHGB.

 

[Therin of Andor]

what do you think the odds are that we might see Number One.

If they have one, they'll make her double up as Nurse Chapel in the sequel, plus the ship's computer, and the voice of M'Ress.

 

[M'Sharak]

Since we'll be seeing Pike, as portrayed in Trek XI by Bruce Greenwood, what do you think the odds are that we might see Number One, or Yeoman Colt, or Dr Boyce, or any of the other 'The Cage' characters?

Connor Trineer would make an awesome Lee Kelso from WNMHGB.

Of those parts, the only one we know was cast is Pike's. At this late date, it doesn't seem likely any of the others will make any kind of significant appearance, and since the movie is about Kirk's crew more than it is Pike's, I'd be guessing we don't see them at all. I liked Trinneer as Trip and he probably would make a good Kelso, but I think that's the sort of stunt casting from which this movie would do better to stay well away.

 

[BenRoethig]

I don't honestly think so. I think this movie will establish that most of Kirk's crew was under Pike's command for at least a little while.

 

[Jamie C]

I've been thinking about Pike's crew too. Based on the rumors, maybe

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the response to the Pearl Harbor-like incident causes Pike's original crew to be promoted and reassigned to new ships. Which would then provide the opening for old Spock to get young Spock to assemble Kirk's crew a few years early. It seems like Chekov is the only real solid problem with that, since he and Kirk are basically the only characters with canonically established ages, and they're 12 years apart. Maybe they can make up some of it if Spock gets Chekov to enlist...

 

[Jackson_Roykirk]

I think the parts we see with Pike will be much closer to the TOS era than they will be to The Cage era -- perhaps the parts with Pike take place immediately before Kirk takes command of the ship from him.

Assuming that The Cage took place 10 years before what I feel will be Pike's timeframe in this film, I think it is unlikely that Number one is still only a "Number One" (she proabably has her own command), and Dr. Boyce -- who was already quite old in The Cage -- probably retired.

As for Yeoman Colt or José Tyler, who knows -- they could have transferred sometime in the past 10 years, or were killed in the line of duty.

 

[Timo]

José Tyler

Aaaargh... The guy was a stereotypical latino lover in an early script treatise only. In the aired episode, he was a Regular Joe, probably from somewhere in the Bible Belt and with an ancestry that goes via the Mayflower to the oldest little village of post-Celtic Britain. It's unlikely his real given name would be José.

Of course, his shipmates might teasingly call him "José" because he's so pathetic with girls..

Assuming that The Cage took place 10 years before that, I think it is unlikely that Number one is still only a "Number One" (she probably has her own command), and Dr. Boyce -- who was already quite old in The Cage -- probably retired.

Agreed with all of this. Would be fun to see the former XO fast-track past her old skipper, tho. But how could the audience associate Commodore Suchandsuch with the original Number One character if the actress isn't the same and we never heard the name Suchandsuch originally? I take it Ms. Barrett-Roddenberry wouldn't be interested in playing a 40-something officer now...?

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Jackson_Roykirk]

^
^^ Don't blame me for José Tyler's name -- I'm just trying to point out that a lot could have happened in 10 years with the established charaters(he was one of the established characters who I'm assuming was meant to be one of the "regulars" if The Cage had not failed as a pilot).

...however, I will defend his name a bit. His father may have been of Anglo ancestry and his mother may have been Spanish, Mexican, or of latino ancestry. Maybe he was named "José" after his maternal grandfather.

 

[SalvorHardin]

Totally off-topic, but I really like that avatar of yours Jackson_Roykirk...
Makes me smile every time

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

A later draft of Roddenberry's proposal describes Jose Tyler thusly:

The Navigator. José (Joe) Tyler, Boston astronomer father and Brazilian mother, is boyishly handsome, still very much in the process of maturing. An unusual combination, he has inherited his father's mathematical ability. José Tyler, in fact, is a phenomenally brilliant mathematician and space theorist. But he has also inherited his mother's Latin temperament, fights a perpetual and highly personalized battle with his instruments and calculators, suspecting that space— and probably God, too— are engaged in a giant conspiracy to make his professional and personal life as difficult and uncomfortable as possible. Joe (or José, depending on the other party) is young enough to be painfully aware of the historical repute of Latins as lovers— and is in danger of failing this challenge on a cosmic scale.

It seems likely that the character's given name remained "Jose" throughout the pilot's completion.

 

[Jackson_Roykirk]

Totally off-topic, but I really like that avatar of yours Jackson_Roykirk...
Makes me smile every time

Thanks, but unfortunately it's only a seasonal (Halloween) avatar that I will feel compelled to change next week.

A later draft of Roddenberry's proposal describes Jose Tyler thusly:

The Navigator. José (Joe) Tyler, Boston astronomer father and Brazilian mother....

I guess I was pretty close, except for the "maternal grandfather's name" part...but that, also, could still be true.

 

[BenRoethig]

I've been thinking about Pike's crew too. Based on the rumors, maybe

Spoiler: text on button

the response to the Pearl Harbor-like incident causes Pike's original crew to be promoted and reassigned to new ships. Which would then provide the opening for old Spock to get young Spock to assemble Kirk's crew a few years early. It seems like Chekov is the only real solid problem with that, since he and Kirk are basically the only characters with canonically established ages, and they're 12 years apart. Maybe they can make up some of it if Spock gets Chekov to enlist...

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That is the interesting part, assuming its 2265, Chekov would still have two years left at the academy left. For him to be on the Enterpise at this time, he would have to either graduated the academy at age 20 or be on his summer cruise

 

[RobertScorpio]

Since we'll be seeing Pike, as portrayed in Trek XI by Bruce Greenwood, what do you think the odds are that we might see Number One, or Yeoman Colt, or Dr Boyce, or any of the other 'The Cage' characters?

Connor Trineer would make an awesome Lee Kelso from WNMHGB.

As long as she has big boobs I am all for it..

Rob

 

[FredH]

José Tyler

Aaaargh... The guy was a stereotypical latino lover in an early script treatise only. In the aired episode, he was a Regular Joe, probably from somewhere in the Bible Belt and with an ancestry that goes via the Mayflower to the oldest little village of post-Celtic Britain. It's unlikely his real given name would be José.

In Star Trek's multi-ethnic, unified future, why wouldn't humans of one background end up with names from another one?

 

[M'Sharak]

José Tyler

Aaaargh... The guy was a stereotypical latino lover in an early script treatise only. In the aired episode, he was a Regular Joe, probably from somewhere in the Bible Belt and with an ancestry that goes via the Mayflower to the oldest little village of post-Celtic Britain. It's unlikely his real given name would be José.

In Star Trek's multi-ethnic, unified future, why wouldn't humans of one background end up with names from another one?

What future? We have that now.

Some years ago, I attended a class with a guy whose last name was Navarro, and who looked as tall, blonde and blue-eyed as a stereotypical Swede. He had ancestors on one side from Castile... and their name, which would seem to indicate their having come from the northern region of that part of Spain.

 

[Sector 7]

José Tyler

Aaaargh... The guy was a stereotypical latino lover in an early script treatise only. In the aired episode, he was a Regular Joe, probably from somewhere in the Bible Belt and with an ancestry that goes via the Mayflower to the oldest little village of post-Celtic Britain. It's unlikely his real given name would be José.

In Star Trek's multi-ethnic, unified future, why wouldn't humans of one background end up with names from another one?

Leonard James A'ka'ar (probably screwed up the spelling).

 

[Red Ranger]

Sorry, I am not Spock, but highly unlikely. Chances approach zero we would see any of the other characters from The Cage in this new movie, aside from Pike, of course. It would be rather fanboyish to have some obligatory scene talking about Pike's old crew members which would fail to move along the story.

I do recall that they handled the Number One situation two different ways in stories related to Kirk taking over as captain, one in a comic book, the other in a novel. In the comic book version of the first mission with Kirk in command, Number One is injured and taken off the ship. In the novel Enterprise: The First Adventure, there's a quick line indicating Number One was promoted and got her own ship.

Hell, it doesn't seem there will be a Gary Mitchell at all in this flick, so why would Jose Tyler and Yeoman Colt appear?

Red Ranger

 

[shapeshifter]

Since we'll be seeing Pike, as portrayed in Trek XI by Bruce Greenwood, what do you think the odds are that we might see Number One, or Yeoman Colt, or Dr Boyce, or any of the other 'The Cage' characters?

Connor Trineer would make an awesome Lee Kelso from WNMHGB.

49.09%

I don't know, maybe. Depends on where in time the story takes us.

 

[Tara]

what do you think the odds are that we might see Number One, or Yeoman Colt, or Dr Boyce, or any of the other 'The Cage' characters? .

I'd say slim to none, but I have my own personal fancasting...

 

[M'Sharak]

what do you think the odds are that we might see Number One, or Yeoman Colt, or Dr Boyce, or any of the other 'The Cage' characters? .

I'd say slim to none, but I have my own personal fancasting...

Heh, looking at the image URL, I just realized who you were. I think I first saw something you'd done several years ago with Zeke from Five-Minute Voyager -- an interview, iirc. I'm not sure I'd be able to find it easily right now.

I do need to point out, though, that bumping year-old threads -- in this case one about casting for the movie which was released in May -- is something we generally discourage. However, there is a currently-running thread which might be a good place for this post:

So let's cast a few more characters!

I could probably move it over there for you, if you like.