WB's Justice League 2017 movie pre-discussion thread
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He was already on board to write the reshoot material before Snyder stepped away; that's why he was available to direct it too.
And why not, keep the best thing about the current franchise front and center to get people excited and hopeful.
WB putting Wonder Woman front and center in the JL marketing
That’s a great looking poster. I haven’t seen this pic of Batman before.
Definitely love the new art...but just saw a commercial talking about *5* heroes...so no Superman there, and no Green Lantern (or whomever they decide)... Weird, no?
And especially the lack of Superman, who would be the BEST marketing tool for the Justice League.
And especially the lack of Superman, who would be the BEST marketing tool for the Justice League.
Not only that, but in artistic compositions where there is only one of an element among many, its not uncommon for said element to be placed somewhere in the front and/or center. This film will not be Wonder Woman 2.0 instead of the JL in the way some have criticized Captain America: Civil War from being more Avengers 3 than a true Cap sequel.
He's dead, Jim.
Not necessarily. Director credits are decided by the Directors Guild of America, not by the studios (otherwise the studios would constantly be trying to cheat people out of deserved credit). They'd decide based on which director did the majority of the work or was most responsible for the film's content, tone, and style. In this case, it seems likely that Lucasfilm/Disney wanted something that's more of a Ron Howard film than a Lord/Miller film, so there's a good chance that the decision will go his way, but we don't yet know for certain.
DGA rules specify that directorial credit has to be given only if a director or directors has/have completed 90% of Principal Photography. Lord and Miller were fired when they were because they were getting close to being able to say that they'd hit that threshold even with the massive behind-the-scenes problems that they were having with Kathleen Kennedy and that she was having with them, and she clearly didn't want to have their names tied to the project due to the headaches they were causing her.
Ron Howard will end up hitting that 90% threshold and get sole directorial credit under the DGA's rules, and Lucasfilm will quietly let Lord and Miller's involvement become a footnote.
Ron Howard will end up hitting that 90% threshold and get sole directorial credit under the DGA's rules, and Lucasfilm will quietly let Lord and Miller's involvement become a footnote.
Were the rules different in the past? I'm pretty sure Richard Lester wasn't responsible for 90% of Superman II. I do seem to recall that the Salkinds had him reshoot a fair amount of Donner's material specifically so that he'd reach the threshold needed to get the director credit, but it surely wasn't that much.
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I did some research on Superman II, and what seems to have happened - and will likely happen with the Han Solo film - is that Donner completed about 75% of Principal Photography before being replaced, with Lester reshooting over 50% of the movie in addition to finishing Principal Photography on it, and that the Richard Donner Cut release was an after-the-fact "compromise".
I did some research on Superman II, and what seems to have happened - and will likely happen with the Han Solo film - is that Donner completed about 75% of Principal Photography before being replaced, with Lester reshooting over 50% of the movie in addition to finishing Principal Photography on it, and that the Richard Donner Cut release was an after-the-fact "compromise".
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^The "Donner cut" was decades later and wasn't even done by Donner (it's really the Michael Thal cut in consultation with Donner). So I'm not sure what you mean there. Apparently the right in theory to do a director's cut is part of the standard DGA package, though.
But my point is, Lester's work on the movie doesn't appear to add up to 90% of the final film.
But my point is, Lester's work on the movie doesn't appear to add up to 90% of the final film.
Apparently the release of the Donner Cut was facilitated through a different deal and not as a result of DGA rules.
It also appears that Lester reshooting 51% of the film was enough to get him directorial credit, suggesting that maybe the DGA upped the percentage threshold at some point.
Incidentally, DGA rules are the reason Tony Gilroy didn't get directorial credit for Rogue One, and why Joss isn't getting directorial credit on Justice League even though Snyder willingly allowed Joss to take over.
Also, it's 90 to 100% of Principal Photography shooting that is determinative of directorial credit, not the percentage of individual footage shot by a particular director.
It also appears that Lester reshooting 51% of the film was enough to get him directorial credit, suggesting that maybe the DGA upped the percentage threshold at some point.
Incidentally, DGA rules are the reason Tony Gilroy didn't get directorial credit for Rogue One, and why Joss isn't getting directorial credit on Justice League even though Snyder willingly allowed Joss to take over.
Also, it's 90 to 100% of Principal Photography shooting that is determinative of directorial credit, not the percentage of individual footage shot by a particular director.
And that's the answer I was looking for, thanks.
As far as we know there isn't a Green Lantern in JL, or if there is they're keeping it quite so it's a surprise, either way it makes sense that there wouldn't be a GL in any of the marketing.
Yeah, at this point it's pretty certain that the Justice League will start with 5 members (6 after Superman comes back to life), and anyone else is for future movies. Even if there is a big hush hush surprise member, don't expect it to be anything more than a cameo or a post credits tag.