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I liked 'Time Crash'! It was funny.
Tis true. But when you watch it, is it for the story, or for the novelty of seeing the two Docs together?
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Tis true. But when you watch it, is it for the story, or for the novelty of seeing the two Docs together?
All right you people, stop it! We already had a massive 'Which Romana is better?' thread. 
Oh I love him too. My problem was in TTD's he wasn't the clownish, good natured Doctor I remember. He spent most of the episode cranky and irritable, more like Hartnell than anything.
Of course, Davison was a big grump in Time Crash too. Hmmm, wonder if irritability is another side-effect of crossing their own timelines?
Oh I love him too. My problem was in TTD's he wasn't the clownish, good natured Doctor I remember. He spent most of the episode cranky and irritable, more like Hartnell than anything.
Of course, Davison was a big grump in Time Crash too. Hmmm, wonder if irritability is another side-effect of crossing their own timelines?
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I liked 'Time Crash'! It was funny.
Tis true. But when you watch it, is it for the story, or for the novelty of seeing the two Docs together?
Well, considerin' I've got no real attachment to the fifth Doctor, I just watch it 'cause its short & funny.
Simple minds, simple pleasures, I suppose...
Mileage varies on that though..
IMO, City of Death - charming & witty dialogue but average story written by Douglas Adams (Essentially it's Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency) with lots of tedious running around Paris to a repetative music score.
Genesis... - A true classic with some of the finest moments the series ever mustered. Dark, grim great dialogue and 2 great companions thrust into the middle of the Thal/Kaled conflict by the Timelords. I loved it as a child, and it has still held up incredibly well IMO. Negatives are the one cliffhanger and resolution with Sarah falling and Harry stepping on a giant clam which, yes, does look a bit dodgey. But overall, this is the superior story in my book.
IMO, City of Death - charming & witty dialogue but average story written by Douglas Adams (Essentially it's Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency) with lots of tedious running around Paris to a repetative music score.
Genesis... - A true classic with some of the finest moments the series ever mustered. Dark, grim great dialogue and 2 great companions thrust into the middle of the Thal/Kaled conflict by the Timelords. I loved it as a child, and it has still held up incredibly well IMO. Negatives are the one cliffhanger and resolution with Sarah falling and Harry stepping on a giant clam which, yes, does look a bit dodgey. But overall, this is the superior story in my book.
I don't know that you can indict City of Death as "essentially" being a story that came after it!
Besides, Genesis of the Daleks is "essentially" every other Terry Nation story ever written.
Chronology has little to do with it, one story is essentially the same as the other. And sure, Terry Nation often repeated himself, but to say Genesis.. is the same as every other Terry Nation story is really quite disingenous. Terry was asked to come up with Genesis.. precisely because his original idea was too similar to previous stories, so he was asked to do something different. Of course there are quite a few iconic Terry Nation moments and situations, but overall the story bears little resemblence to his earlier works.
And when Terry is on, he is on. The guy can do some things really well. Is Dalek's Masterplan to be hastily written off as just a cheap rip-off of The Chase, since they are so similar?
I'll get back to you on that in ... November.
Sure, they're very similar but I hardly see how that disparages either. There's certainly no other story like it/them!
I've never seen/hear Masterplan, but nothing could be a cheap rip-off of The Chase because it can't get any cheaper than The Chase!
It doesn't and that wasn't my point. I actually quite like both City of Death & Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency. Douglas Adams is one of my favourite writers and I think he was basically a genius.
However, they are both not without their problems, and in City of Death the execution, particularly the decision to shoot on location in Paris, drags it down a bit and dilutes it.
By contast, I think as an entire package, Genesis.. holds up much better.
Its been a lot of years since I've read Dirk Gently's. Wasn't that the book that was a partial recycle of his Shada script?
Yes, it was, although I don't know the details since I haven't read Dirk Gently's. Yes, I know, I need to rectify that...
harry Enfield did a audio show of both dirk gently books recently.
And there's a cartoon of the mcgann version out there too.
And there's a cartoon of the mcgann version out there too.
And ther's a third season coming, expanded from all the various drafts of Salmon of Doubt (as Dirk Gently book, HHGttG book and stand alone novel) that Adams had completed before he died.
Given that the second season of the radio Dirk Gently added in a role for Sirius Cybernetics and a one line cameo by Marvin the Paranoid Android, this could be very interesting...
