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Watched My Second Classic Who

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Admiral
Admiral
The other night, when I went down to Kevin's place for fajitas, I returned his copy of Doctor Who: Genesis of the Daleks. In return, he loaned me three more classic Doctor Who DVDs - City of Death, Earthshock & The Two Doctors.

I watched City of Death last night (parts one & two) and this mornin' (parts three & four).

It has Tom Baker as the Doctor and Julian Glover as the Count (aka the villian). In this one, Lalla Ward plays Romana, the Doctor's companion, and John Cleese has a cameo in part four, as a museum patron that refers to the TARDIS as a piece of art.

The story is pretty simple - the Doctor and Romana arrive in then modern day Paris, France for a holiday, but soon experience time skips. The Doctor tries to ignore them, but soon he & his companion are caught up in the intrigue of an alien, the Count, tryin' to steal the Mona Lisa. Turns out, he has six other original Mona Lisa paintings in his basement dungeon, and needs to steal the one on display to sell all seven to individual collectors.

The Doctor travels from the 1970s to da Vinci's era, all the way back to the dawn of life on Earth (much like Q & Captain Picard in TNG 'All Good Things...'). And the Count is in all three eras, as well. Turns out an accident in the ancient past fractured him, and he's been livin' in twelve distinct time periods, from the days of the pyramids bein' built up to the 1970s, and is connected with each part of himself.

Couple of other highlights - the episodes were written by Douglas Adams, usin' a pen name, and the first part of the four-part episode originally aired on my first birthday.

How cool is that?

Overall, I liked this a bit more than I did Genesis of the Daleks. Julian Glover always plays a good villian (For Your Eyes Only & Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade are two good examples). I liked the Doctor's humor in this, and I was kind of intrigued by Romana. Is she a Time Lady? If so, why is she travelin' with the Doctor? Isn't he a troublemaker?

I've got a screenin' to go to tonight, so I'll probably watch Earthshock tomorrow, which, aside from the Children in Need Special, will be the first time I watch the 5th Doctor.
 
A season long crisis involving the "key to time" forced the the Timelords to send eyes and ears along with the Doctor as he stopped the universe from folding in on herself.

The original Romana was stacked and toffy, probably the closest evidence I have seen to intelligent design. She regenerated for sport and the replacement was just a little prettier.
 
I liked the Doctor's humor in this, and I was kind of intrigued by Romana. Is she a Time Lady? If so, why is she travelin' with the Doctor? Isn't he a troublemaker?

Yup she's a Time Lady, in her second incarnation no less. She joined the Doctor in her first incarnation when the White Guardian (pretending to be the president of the Time Lords), sent her to the Doctor to help find the keys to time. Fresh out of the Academy, her first incarnation was rather inexperienced and was a bit annoyed that she was partnered with a crazy troublemaker.

By the time of her second incarnation she had become just as much a troublemaker as the Doctor and was more then happy with the adventuring.
 
Yeah, I've done a bit of readin' about it, Romana seems to have been an interestin' character.

I wonder if Kevin has the key to time DVDs...is it available on DVD?
 
I'm glad you enjoyed The City of Death. It's a fan favorite (but then so is Genesis of the Daleks ;)).

Romana is my favorite companion, so naturally I recommend checking out as many of her stories as you can.
 
I was kind of intrigued by Romana. Is she a Time Lady? If so, why is she travelin' with the Doctor? Isn't he a troublemaker?

As noted, she joined him in the previous season (played by Mary Tamm) for the Key to Time story arc (all of which was released earlier this year as a box set). The character was originally to have been the Doctor's equal in every way, but the format of the show demands a character who will ask "what is it Doctor?" on behalf of the viewers (especially remembering that the series was considered a children's show). Mary (according to her comments on the KTT DVD set) got frustrated with this and asked to leave at the end of her first season. Lalla Ward, who guest starred in Mary's last episode, was invited to play Romana who, being a Time Lord (Lady, hmph!) can regenerate, did just that (for reasons never explained on TV) in the story immediately preceding City of Death, Destiny of the Daleks.

City of Death was the first Doctor Who story to be filmed outside the UK, incidentally, and it's generally felt that the real-life romance between Tom Baker and Lalla Ward (which culminated in their marriage soon before Baker left Doctor Who) may have begun during the filming in Paris.

Did you recognize Maya from Space: 1999 as the Countess, by the way?

I'll probably watch Earthshock tomorrow, which, aside from the Children in Need Special, will be the first time I watch the 5th Doctor.

It's a great story, though certain aspects of it (no spoilers) might have more of an impact if you've seen any of the very final Tom Baker or early Davison stories. Can't say any more without giving things away.

The Two Doctors isn't a 4-star classic like Genesis of the Daleks, but you'll find it interesting if you've never seen a Patrick Troughton story before. (For which I would recommend Tomb of the Cybermen or The Invasion).

If you haven't seen any First or Third Doctors stories yet, there are some pretty good ones on DVD. Try to see something with William Hartnell before watching The Five Doctors (in which the First Doctor is played by another actor because Hartnell had died). At the very least, try and track down the very first episode, "An Unearthly Child", which in my opinion just on its own (and without parts 2, 3 and 4) would have been a great standalone Twilight Zone episode.

Alex
 
Don't expect much from The Two Doctors though. It was made when the show was in a bit of a downward spiral. Plus it completely hoses series continuity, and IMO, gets the second Doctors personality completely wrong. Of course, this is coming from an veteran Who-fan. Your mileage may vary. :)

Nothing but good things to say about Earthshock though. Hope you enjoy it!
 
The only good things about The Two Doctors are the sentimental value of seeing The Second Doctor and Jamie and the chemistry between The Sixth Doctor and Jamie.
 
I've never understood those who think Romana II was sexier than Romana I. Whilst Lalla has a certain unusual, awkward beauty, Mary Tamm is just flat out gorgeous.

Oh well, eye of the beholder I guess..
 
I never understood those who insist on saying one is hotter than the other. I'll take either. :p
 
One of them didn't change her clothes ever, which means, no matter what Timelord powers she had, she probably didn't wash, so purely on the grounds of scent the second Romana is just a little more desirable.

Yes, Tamm is gorgeous in a classical sort of way, a 10 by any standard, but Lalla is just naughty, there's something about her which just screams surprise and unexpectation.
 
One of them didn't change her clothes ever, which means, no matter what Timelord powers she had, she probably didn't wash, so purely on the grounds of scent the second Romana is just a little more desirable.

Yes, Tamm is gorgeous in a classical sort of way, a 10 by any standard, but Lalla is just naughty, there's something about her which just screams surprise and unexpectation.

No, they both had several different outfits on the show.
 
Don't expect much from The Two Doctors though. It was made when the show was in a bit of a downward spiral. Plus it completely hoses series continuity, and IMO, gets the second Doctors personality completely wrong. Of course, this is coming from an veteran Who-fan. Your mileage may vary. :)

Nothing but good things to say about Earthshock though. Hope you enjoy it!

The two Doctors isn't one of the best stories but I thought Troughton was great in it and I'm a big fan of his era. I didn't see anything out of character for him.
I completely Agree about Earthshock though. That's always been one of my favorites.
 
The two Doctors isn't one of the best stories but I thought Troughton was great in it and I'm a big fan of his era. I didn't see anything out of character for him.
I completely Agree about Earthshock though. That's always been one of my favorites.

Well really, none of the multi-Doctor stories were any good. That's not the point of them, though. The whole point is "look, it's all of the Doctors right there!" The Five Doctors, for example, is a completely rubbish story. But when I'm watching, it isn't for the story, it's for all the characters coming together. Same thing with Three Doctors and Two Doctors. And Time Crash.
 
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