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Watch all Star Trek Series but not TOS. Not Sure If I should

The pajamas didn't come until TMP. In TOS they wore velour T-shirts and bell bottoms. It was hip!

And no, Ent didn't 100% suck. The first 3 seasons 100% sucked, and the 4th season only 10% sucked.

;)

Season 3 does not suck
 
Completely different. It is important to understand ST: TOS is beloved, for the most part, for what it symbolized than for being a "great" tv show. In a time of tremendous social upheaval (Cold War, Vietnam, Civil Rights, Changing Social Mores) here is this tv show that is both quaint throwback and daringly ahead of its time. 1950's Western morality plays set in space. Horatio Hornblower conflict and action. A bold utopian future of a mankind without suffering caused by war, religion, money, & racism and thrust forward by tremendous scientific discoveries. The sets are cheap, the acting dodgy, the FX laughably bad. Many of the episodes (particularly in the 3rd Season) are simply just bad television. I strongly advise against spending a ton of money on a crapshoot and watch a few episodes to see if you like it. Taste it first, then commit to the meal, if you like the food.
 
Completely different. It is important to understand ST: TOS is beloved, for the most part, for what it symbolized than for being a "great" tv show. In a time of tremendous social upheaval (Cold War, Vietnam, Civil Rights, Changing Social Mores) here is this tv show that is both quaint throwback and daringly ahead of its time. 1950's Western morality plays set in space. Horatio Hornblower conflict and action. A bold utopian future of a mankind without suffering caused by war, religion, money, & racism and thrust forward by tremendous scientific discoveries. The sets are cheap, the acting dodgy, the FX laughably bad. Many of the episodes (particularly in the 3rd Season) are simply just bad television. I strongly advise against spending a ton of money on a crapshoot and watch a few episodes to see if you like it. Taste it first, then commit to the meal, if you like the food.
I do have money on iTunes, I could get the first episode and get the hd one or get the episodes that most people like, or watch ones from peoples top ten list, I've seen the ds9 episode with the original series, and I like that episode.
 
ok...I guess I/we are not sure of what sort of advice/validation you're looking for. It's a tv show. Try a few episodes. If you like it, watch the whole thing. If you don't, then don't.
 
Letting him go into "The Alternative Factor" without warning? You're a mean old man, BillJ. :p

Could be worse, he could stumble onto "City on the Edge of Forever". He'll run screaming from the room, and probably never turn on the TV again. "The Alternative Factor" might make him a fan.
 
Much as we love TOS, there are some people, mostly younger, who will never like it. It's a creation of the late 1960s and the future looked very different back then.

Your safest bet is to stream some individual episodes over the Internet (Hulu? Netflix? Youtube? It's got to be somewhere) and see what you think rather than buying a whole season sight unseen.

And the Next Generation is a very 1980s/early 90s version of the future. Everything is a product of a time. However, that should not effect enjoyment. Twilight Zone frequently had episodes about things like the far off year of 1999 and something bad on a space colony we'd surely have by then, but that should not effect the reception of the show nor does it hinder the quality. Similar things can be said about all sorts of science fiction from various authors; Bradbury's Mars comes to mind. A good story is a good story regardless, and art is art regardless, and anyone who would complain about "I don't think miniskirts are futuristic" is being very shallow and ignoring the actual story.

Not to say that people won't take that shallow route, but the thread author shouldn't.

I like the way you think friend.:bolian:
 
Letting him go into "The Alternative Factor" without warning? You're a mean old man, BillJ. :p

Could be worse, he could stumble onto "City on the Edge of Forever". He'll run screaming from the room, and probably never turn on the TV again. "The Alternative Factor" might make him a fan.

Would it be bad to skip to the good ones
or should I watch it from the start?
I can watch 30 seconds trailers
 
Oh for crying out loud...

JUST EFFING WATCH A COUPLE.

Geez, it's not like you're making a commitment, The OFF button is right there. ;)
 
Oh for crying out loud...

JUST EFFING WATCH A COUPLE.

Geez, it's not like you're making a commitment, The OFF button is right there. ;)

Do you know if iTunes hd uses blu ray ones?
as there is one called remastered and it has hd
would that be the blu ray one
 
Everyone has their own tastes, and I can understand TOS seeming very dated to younger generations. But VGR was a copy of a copy, and ENT was a copy of a copy of a copy. TOS is the irreplaceable foundation of the larger Trek franchise, and should at least be appreciated on a historical level by anyone who generally enjoys the franchise. You owe it to yourself to try it out.

That said, it's an imperfect series that has plenty of episodes that could put off a new viewer. Since you've been practically begging for a "Top 10"-type list and nobody has been forthcoming, here's a baker's dozen (depending on how you count "The Menagerie") that I put together for somebody a few years ago.


Season 1

"The Enemy Within"
A personal favorite--Kirk is split into his intellectual, "good" half and his primal, "evil" half...best "evil twin" episode ever.

"The Naked Time"
A disease causes the crew to lose their inhibitions, providing a lot of insight into the characters. TNG's "The Naked Now" was a not-so-inspired remake of this classic.

"Balance of Terror"
Kirk matches wits with a Romulan commander...basically a WWII submarine movie in space.

"The Menagerie", Parts I & II
One of two TOS episodes that won the Hugo Award for Best Dramatic Presentation. A framing story is used as an excuse to revisit an adventure of the previous crew of the Enterprise, which is actually the original pilot episode for Star Trek, featuring a mostly different crew. The original pilot is also available separately as "The Cage."

"Space Seed "
A good episode in its own right, but noteworthy primarily in that it sets up the best Trek movie, Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan.

"The Devil in the Dark"
A good example of what Trek is all about, and features one of the better examples of the Vulcan mind meld.

"The City on the Edge of Forever"
The other Hugo Award-winning episode. This is widely considered to be the best episode of the original series. Harlan Ellison wrote the original script.


Season 2

"Amok Time"
Spock goes in heat and fights a duel to the death against Kirk! Definitely in any true Classic Trek fans' top 5. You may have seen this episode referenced a number of times in popular culture and not known it.

"The Doomsday Machine"
The best all-out action thriller of the series.

"Mirror, Mirror"
Some crewmembers are transported to a parallel universe where the Enterprise serves an evil empire...some actors get to play evil versions of their characters, others play the good versions who are trying to fit into the evil universe while they find a way out. Another definite top-5'er that you've probably seen referenced all over the place...particularly evil Spock's iconic goatee....

"The Trouble with Tribbles"
A purely lighthearted episode--generally highly regarded, though it has its detractors, and lots of fun.

"A Piece of the Action"
Another lighthearted episode...when Kirk and company visit a planet run by 1920's-style gangsters, they learn to do as the gangsters do.


Then there's one must-watch movie featuring the original crew, the aforementioned Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan--easily the best of the Trek movies. You don't have to have seen the first film in the series before seeing this one, as The Motion Picture is a standalone story, and II is more of a do-over than a sequel. II stands well on its own, but is the first part of a trilogy that includes Star Trek III: The Search for Spock, and Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home, so if you like II and want to see more, those are worth checking out.
 
Everyone has their own tastes, and I can understand TOS seeming very dated to younger generations. But VGR was a copy of a copy, and ENT was a copy of a copy of a copy. TOS is the irreplaceable foundation of the larger Trek franchise, and should at least be appreciated on a historical level by anyone who generally enjoys the franchise. You owe it to yourself to try it out.

That said, it's an imperfect series that has plenty of episodes that could put off a new viewer. Since you've been practically begging for a "Top 10"-type list and nobody has been forthcoming, here's a baker's dozen (depending on how you count "The Menagerie") that I put together for somebody a few years ago.


Season 1

"The Enemy Within"
A personal favorite--Kirk is split into his intellectual, "good" half and his primal, "evil" half...best "evil twin" episode ever.

"The Naked Time"
A disease causes the crew to lose their inhibitions, providing a lot of insight into the characters. TNG's "The Naked Now" was a not-so-inspired remake of this classic.

"Balance of Terror"
Kirk matches wits with a Romulan commander...basically a WWII submarine movie in space.

"The Menagerie", Parts I & II
One of two TOS episodes that won the Hugo Award for Best Dramatic Presentation. A framing story is used as an excuse to revisit an adventure of the previous crew of the Enterprise, which is actually the original pilot episode for Star Trek, featuring a mostly different crew. The original pilot is also available separately as "The Cage."

"Space Seed "
A good episode in its own right, but noteworthy primarily in that it sets up the best Trek movie, Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan.

"The Devil in the Dark"
A good example of what Trek is all about, and features one of the better examples of the Vulcan mind meld.

"The City on the Edge of Forever"
The other Hugo Award-winning episode. This is widely considered to be the best episode of the original series. Harlan Ellison wrote the original script.


Season 2

"Amok Time"
Spock goes in heat and fights a duel to the death against Kirk! Definitely in any true Classic Trek fans' top 5. You may have seen this episode referenced a number of times in popular culture and not known it.

"The Doomsday Machine"
The best all-out action thriller of the series.

"Mirror, Mirror"
Some crewmembers are transported to a parallel universe where the Enterprise serves an evil empire...some actors get to play evil versions of their characters, others play the good versions who are trying to fit into the evil universe while they find a way out. Another definite top-5'er that you've probably seen referenced all over the place...particularly evil Spock's iconic goatee....

"The Trouble with Tribbles"
A purely lighthearted episode--generally highly regarded, though it has its detractors, and lots of fun.

"A Piece of the Action"
Another lighthearted episode...when Kirk and company visit a planet run by 1920's-style gangsters, they learn to do as the gangsters do.


Then there's one must-watch movie featuring the original crew, the aforementioned Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan--easily the best of the Trek movies. You don't have to have seen the first film in the series before seeing this one, as The Motion Picture is a standalone story, and II is more of a do-over than a sequel. II stands well on its own, but is the first part of a trilogy that includes Star Trek III: The Search for Spock, and Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home, so if you like II and want to see more, those are worth checking out.
I've seen the movies, my favorite is The Voyage Home, but I've only seen the wrath of khan once, but I might start with Mirror, Mirror or Balance of Terror, I really have no idea
 
I first started watching Star Trek when a game demo cd had Star Trek: Voyager Elite Force, and then Voyager was on tv and it had people from the game :D
but it was to late in the night to watch it.
 
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Oh for crying out loud...

JUST EFFING WATCH A COUPLE.

Geez, it's not like you're making a commitment, The OFF button is right there. ;)

Exactly.

Do this Iron Maiden: start from the begininng, watch straight through with the original effects (with the Blue rays you have a choice on that), then when you've seen all the episodes, come back and tell us what you think.

I don't think I can make it any plainer than that.
 
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