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Was Wanda playing hide the pickle with Doom and Cap at the same time?

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They are fully functional.
 
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More so than fully functional.

All doombots, even the girl ones, would be loaded for bear with special jizzim that could produce a clone of totally %100 Doomian baby if given the chance to lay in the belly of a woman ignoring her 23 chromorznes and anything else she might offer.

Magic is just science we don't know the rules for.

Figure out the rules and robots can use magic.
 
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[fnord]



Reading Guy Gardener's posts is like reading these books.

I'm just here for the ride and I don't understand a word.
 
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That's what all the girls say.

And boys.

And nondescript genders obscured away in full body plush pony costumes.

Mark Waid, for FF 500, I remember him trumpeting his brilliance on fanboy radio, saying that Doom had finally beaten Reed Richard, and trapped him inside some hell Dimension where the Latverian monarch gives his big victory speech, something like... "So Richards, scientifically we may be rivals, in some ways you almost challenge me, I admit that I can feel you behind some where nipping at my heels, but what I have done to you today has NOTHING TO DO WITH SCIENCE... To escape this prison, to survive this prison, I am afraid that in this world were science does not exist, all you have to do is learn and master the mystic arts of magic, and how difficult could that possibly be for some one as perfectly rigidly scientific as yourself? I mean, after all you are a genius, aren't you? Farewell, I suspect I shall never see you again in my lifetime."

If Reed Richard can use magic, a robot can use magic.
 
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Ugh..FF 500...that's the issue where they scarred Reed right? Also isn't that the issue where Doom wants Val named after his sister and to be named her godparent? I remember avoiding those issues but still kind of interested.
 
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Well I'm already pushing it with spoilers since that above is the cover to Children's Crusade Number 7 which came out this Wednesday, so I'm a bastard, but here's the skinny.

After house of M, it was revealed that Wanda had gone back to central Europe to live simply. Later Hawkeye (in one of Bendis' books) found her and slept with her. It's just the sort of thing Barton does. But recently it's been revealed that that Scarlet Witch which Clint boinked was a decoy put in place by Doom so that no one would interfere with his impending nuptials. Clint boffed a fembot, and he's been made aware of this misdirected indiscretion... But the Doombot and the real Scarlet Witch, both had amnesia and didn't really understand about all the horrible things that had happened to "them" as the absolute Monarch, in her diminished state, was wooing the Gypsie sorceress with her own room in Castle Doom to "wait for him" in surrounded by all sorts of other unthought of modcons not found in the 15th century(like) hamlet Doom rescued her from.

We've known this for months if not a year because Hienberg is busy and his books ship late, but this week, after her memory had finally been restored, dropped a truth bomb by saying something like "Since the beginning, Victor has always been my side" which is when Hawkeye starts connecting the dots and asks some leading questions to Determine if Doom didn't drive her insane in the beginning of Avengers Disassembled to use her as a weapon or a human Eveready Battery to source some nefarious plot.

So, to answer your question quarter way into Avengers Crusade we discovered she digged Doom and they were getting hitched, but as of a few days ago, retroactively, Doctor Doom and the Scarlet Witch have been an item since the turn of the century back when people were first saying "but there's no such thing as chaos magic!"
Is Avengers' Crusade supposed to take place before or after FF? I only ask since Uncle Doom is a member of the Future Foundation right now :) This is what happens when you have a million books with a hundred different stories supposedly going on at the same time (or relative to each other).

And of course, Layla Miller was supposedly living at Castle Doom for the last year or so as well. Given the connection between Wanda and Layla, you would think that that would have come up somewhere.

I liked it better back in the day when things like character appearances were better coordinated at Marvel. Not so long ago, the Absorbing Man appeared in Avengers Academy, X-Factor and a Hawkeye mini all within a month of each other without any acknowledgement of the other stories.


Getting back to that whole idea of Marvel needing its own reboot... :whistle:
 
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have you read the state of the Ultimate Universe of late?

Susuan Storm is about to marry (a humaniform) Ben Grim because Reed is evil and Johnny has Joined the X-Men.

You're just trading off a can of worms now, for a can of worms later like when you buy a toaster for no money down, no interest for two years and still the balifs eventually kick your door in to commandeer all your swag.

More so than a reboot I like how untold tales of spider-man or the backstories from classic x-men interlocked with the comics form 20 years ago cohesively, therefore writing in a simpler time rather than trying to make now simpler.

I'm remembering those bandits trying to rob that diner from Farscape...

"WHY SO DIFFICULT!!!!???! EEEEEEEEEE! DIFFICULT! WHY?!"

Jeebus, Scorpius wound those blighters up like tin soldiers quick.
 
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Hey, hey -- I liked The Vision. I thought he and Wanda were cute together. :p

huh? They broke up?

Man I'm behind the times. When did Wanda becomes Marvel's ho of the month?
I'm thinking Bernie isn't going to like this.

Does Doom even still have a pickle?
You are behind the times. Cap's back with Sharon Carter/Agent 13. (Yes, she's back from the dead!)
 
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Bernie.

That is some time ago.

I think she showed up as a Lawyer in opposition to Mat Murdock in Daredevil comics about 5 years ago.

From first principles, I just can't understand how Sharon hooked up with Steve after he spent all that time canoodling with her Aunt Peggy during the war.

It's like in the play Joey was in during season 2 of friends. "I'm going into stasis to fly to another planet, so in two hundred years when I get back, even though you'll be dead, I'll still be thinking of you when I'm doing your hot greatgranddaughter."

If Steve misses another couple decades to some new big sleep, is he going to go back and see what the latest batch of Carters has produced because he REALLY appreciates the bloodline fornicatorially?
 
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Ultimate Steve took a shot at Ultimate Jan...which went no where. He's not really had any love interests outside of Peggy who ended up marrying Ultimate Bucky.
 
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That's because he's an asshole.

Ultimate Captain America is not a nice man, imagine if Abe Simpson had super powers and a license to kill? You know what old people are like, now imagine all that, if they weren't slowed down by being decrepit. The past was awful because old people used to be in charge. Sadly old people, and almost the same old people, still run the world.

I remember laughing my ass off when the Ultimate Wasp dumped Ultimate Steve because he was an old man who didn't know how to have fun in the modern world and she was sick of being treated like a nana.

So Funny.

It was sort of an unintended parallel to when that Alcoholic reporter for the daily bugle/frontline Sally Floyd interviewed Cap in his Jail cell after the civil war had concluded... "Really? You represent America Today? Today's America? As it stands? Why don't you tell me about your Myspace page or who you voted for on American idol? How can you honestly believe that you still have your finger on the pulse enough to drag this country into a war?!"

Sally is awesome.

Best line ever, she was in a car accident or something and as she's leaving the ER a little bruised and blooded, and her thought bubble says "God damn it, I look like one of Hank Pyms X-Wives."

Whatever happened to her?

Although I do know what happened to the Ultimate Wasp.

I shit you not, it happened about the time the regular was Exploded in Mighty Avengers, but the Ultimate wasp was eaten by the Ultimate Blob in some end of the world cross over.

It was a sad week for crosstime Janet VanDynes.

Oh.

I always felt that the love affair between Magneto and the Wasp from the first Secret war should have been expanded upon. It scored a 9.8 on the wierdshitometer.
 
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Guy Gardner said:
It was sort of an unintended parallel to when that Alcoholic reporter for the daily bugle/frontline Sally Floyd interviewed Cap in his Jail cell after the civil war had concluded... "Really? You represent America Today? Today's America? As it stands? Why don't you tell me about your Myspace page or who you voted for on American idol? How can you honestly believe that you still have your finger on the pulse enough to drag this country into a war?!"
Meh, who ever wrote that doesn't have clue about Captain America. Assuming that Cap wouldn't know about MySpace or American Idol is idiotic. He's lived in the present for over a decade of Marvel time, he hangs out with people in the their twenties and thirties. He's lived in the modern world, in Brooklyn of all places. He's been out on the streets. He hasn't spent the last decade holed up in Avengers Mansion playing phonograph records, watching black and white films and crying into his beer.
 
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^ Mark Millar wrote it and it happened during Civil War and caused a lot of controversy and pissed off a lot of fans.
 
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But that's the point.

He struggled to adapt to the ultramodern age of the 80s or 90s, but then the bastard bastard world kept growing up and becoming even more futuristic...

But say that that speech Sally gave, if the civil war was from 2008 (My how time flies), that means that he was awoken in 1998, and told that this was the zenith of society he was supposed to adapt and aspire to... 10 years later by the time he's on top of all that... Learning how fax information across the country, the running man, it's all bollocks.

After he saves the world, all Captain America has the strength to still accomplish, is sleep.

Steven is not disconnected because he's a man out of time, it's just that he's so bloody busy.
 
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have you read the state of the Ultimate Universe of late?

Susuan Storm is about to marry (a humaniform) Ben Grim because Reed is evil and Johnny has Joined the X-Men.

You're just trading off a can of worms now, for a can of worms later like when you buy a toaster for no money down, no interest for two years and still the balifs eventually kick your door in to commandeer all your swag.

I actually like that after a period of just retelling old stories that the Ultimate Universe is starting to diverge quite a lot. I also think that they are currently setting up the first ever proper (rather than the "by association" stuff we saw in Marvel zombies) crossover between both universes - Hickman is writing the Ultimates and FF. In both Reed seems to leading a Future Foundation (One good, one evil) - seems a obvious lead-in to a big event next year.


But that's the point.

He struggled to adapt to the ultramodern age of the 80s or 90s, but then the bastard bastard world kept growing up and becoming even more futuristic...

Have you read Waid's Captain America: Man out of time which updates when Captain America is revived to today?
 
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I read a lot.

But yes I was really into that. All mopy about Bucky, and then Stark fucked him by tanking Steve's brain up with too much future information that he could never ever possibly be sent back tot he past to live... Stark is, was and always will be a c**t.

And then he goes back in time anyway and realizes that "the president" was right, he couldn't go home... Captain America was a man out of time in any era in every era now.

Poor bugger.

In the 80s, there was a "what if", where they showed the implications of Captain America waking up in different eras and geopolitical turmoil that would influence his re-emergence into sentinelling for liberty.

Right now, I'm enjoying Captain America Corps too, which is a cheeky extrapolation diving off from an 80s annual where "Mr Budda" was much about then with a bunch of Cross Time Captain Americas then too.

I felt let down by that Avengers Mightiest Heroes by Joe Kelly because it simply just didn't go into how disturbed all the characters where forshadowing all the strife they were due down the line.
 
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But that's the point.

He struggled to adapt to the ultramodern age of the 80s or 90s, but then the bastard bastard world kept growing up and becoming even more futuristic...

But say that that speech Sally gave, if the civil war was from 2008 (My how time flies), that means that he was awoken in 1998, and told that this was the zenith of society he was supposed to adapt and aspire to... 10 years later by the time he's on top of all that... Learning how fax information across the country, the running man, it's all bollocks.

After he saves the world, all Captain America has the strength to still accomplish, is sleep.

Steven is not disconnected because he's a man out of time, it's just that he's so bloody busy.
I don't recall him struggling much. And the "modern world" is still struggling to match the experiences he had in the 1940s when he hung out with flaming androids and amphibious Atlantean Princes while fighting aliens, monsters and disembodies brains. It doesn't matter if that modern world is 1964, 1984, 2004 or 3004, Cap will adapt and thrive. Because thats who Captain America/Steve Rogers is. Any era Cap awakes in will have "problems". In the 60s there was the Vietnam War and the Cultural Revolution. In the 70s you had Watergate. No matter what is happening Cap can be used to comment on and react to current events. But not from the perspective of a "Man out of time" but that of an American.

Caps been an Avenger, a soldier, a cop and a commercial artist.And while doing those jobs he's found time to relax, hung out with his friends, dated and even caught a movie or two.

Waid's Man Out of Time wasn't very good.
 
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Guy Gardner took a girl the movies once you know?

Like the devourer of worlds, Mark Waid is beyond good and evil.
 
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