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Was there ever a DS10?

Actually, it is very probable that they keep their designations across the years.

Perhaps. But the fact that they get single references in TNG and VOY offers no support for this. It just, you know, is.

Timo Saloniemi
 
Perhaps. But the fact that they get single references in TNG and VOY offers no support for this.
It actually does support it. There's no reason to believe otherwise.

Of course, we could also go with the theory that a handful of stations have the Deep Space designations just because they do and that's the sole rationale behind it. Either way, same result.
 
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She's the only ship we actually know of having trouble with high speeds. From the get-go, she's called "overpowered", which isn't a compliment - her power source tends to blow up the ship rather than make her go. And "The Sound of Her Voice" shows her struggling to achieve speeds past warp 9 without extensive jury-rigging, which is pretty poor going for the era.

Still, she got Sisko from Earth to DS9 within 13 days in "The Search" (the "last Thursday" thing), and Worf and pals from DS9 to Earth in what was probably just a couple of days in "Paradise Lost".

Heck, Runabouts supposedly can't get past warp 5 (the Klaestron escape plan in "Dax" seemed to hinge on that), but Bashir claims that getting one would allow him to obtain supplied from Vulcan within the week in "Defiant", supposedly meaning a back-and-forth trip. So yes, Bajor is pretty close to the central UFP worlds.

Timo Saloniemi

The tendency to shake herself apart at full power was solved by rearranging and strengthening the structural integrity fields, not by reducing power. Maintaining warp 9.5 for several days (in "The Sound of Her Voice") is nothing to be ashamed of. Although she's not as fast as Voyager, she's more maneuverable and quicker to accelerate.
 
It actually does support it. There's no reason to believe otherwise.

The latter is not the same thing as the former. What you stated offers no support whatsoever. That is, it fits any and all theories and props up none of them.

Say there's a USS Hood out there. Is this support for the name staying with the same ship forever or not?

The tendency to shake herself apart at full power was solved by rearranging and strengthening the structural integrity fields, not by reducing power.

Never stated on screen. As far as we know, the problem was never solved at all. Indeed, the dialogue in "The Sound of Her Voice" goes along these very lines, with the SIF strengthening offered as a theoretical option that has not been tried before.

Maintaining warp 9.5 for several days (in "The Sound of Her Voice") is nothing to be ashamed of.

It's something the ship can't do, though. Not normally, as the episode dialogue indicates the ship never goes past 9.0 because of the SIF problems specified.

Although she's not as fast as Voyager, she's more maneuverable and quicker to accelerate.

Never indicated. Any starship seems to be able to go through those loops and hoops (which as we see are of zero help in avoiding being hit!), and there's zero specs on acceleration on any starship.

Timo Saloniemi
 
The latter is not the same thing as the former. What you stated offers no support whatsoever. That is, it fits any and all theories and props up none of them.
Yeah, it does. You may not like it or agree with it, but it does work (and quite well actually).
Say there's a USS Hood out there. Is this support for the name staying with the same ship forever or not?
Yep, until that ship is eventually decommissioned and a new USS Hood is built.
 
Yeah, it does. You may not like it or agree with it, but it does work (and quite well actually).

Likes, dislikes or the models being correct or not have nothing to do with this. You are simply making a logical error here, in assuming that something offers support for a model when it is utterly indifferent to the model. "It does work" is neither here nor there.

Yep, until that ship is eventually decommissioned and a new USS Hood is built.

And here you are using extraneous information and speculation, such as "ships get decommisioned" and "new ones get built" and "new ones get the names of old ones", without deriving it from the material I offered. The very same thing goes with DS station numbers.

Timo Saloniemi
 
Likes, dislikes or the models being correct or not have nothing to do with this.
Who said any of that?
You are simply making a logical error here, in assuming that something offers support for a model when it is utterly indifferent to the model. "It does work" is neither here nor there.
Nah, it's as good as an idea as any.
And here you are using extraneous information and speculation, such as "ships get decommisioned" and "new ones get built" and "new ones get the names of old ones", without deriving it from the material I offered. The very same thing goes with DS station numbers.
At this point you're putting words in my mouth and getting off topic here.
 
Never stated on screen. As far as we know, the problem was never solved at all. Indeed, the dialogue in "The Sound of Her Voice" goes along these very lines, with the SIF strengthening offered as a theoretical option that has not been tried before.

Pretty sure in "Shattered Mirror", Sisko told mirror-O'Brien that the prime universe solved the Defiant's structural problems by strengthening and/or rearranging her SIFs.

Voyager is better at sustained top speeds (and a good thing she was), but Defiant is built for fighting, and is much smaller, more maneuverable, and quicker to accelerate.
 
Pretty sure in "Shattered Mirror", Sisko told mirror-O'Brien that the prime universe solved the Defiant's structural problems by strengthening and/or rearranging her SIFs.
He did. Says it took them two weeks to do it. But Shattered Mirror and Sound of Her Voice don't necessarily contradict each other. Mirror is about the Defiant having a problem just powering up the engines at all. Sound is about going above warp nine.
 
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If "Deep Space" is the designation given to starbases outside Federation space and/or ones jointly operated with other polities, I wonder if Farpoint Station would have been designated "Deep Space x" if the Federation had taken the Bandi up on their offer. (And then the former Terok Nor would be Deep Space 10.)
 
If "Deep Space" is the designation given to starbases outside Federation space and/or ones jointly operated with other polities, I wonder if Farpoint Station would have been designated "Deep Space x" if the Federation had taken the Bandi up on their offer. (And then the former Terok Nor would be Deep Space 10.)
Farspace Starbase Farpoint. There was a Farspace Starbase Earheart in "Samaritan Snare"
 
The Federation is apparently still around in the 31st Century, I dare say at that point the stations were numbered in the hundreds if not thousands.
 
I remember reading in one of the behind the scenes books for First Contact that there was mention of Deep Space Twelve. The only mention of it I can find online though is the First Contact novelisation:
https://books.google.com.au/books?id=gMllMnVtTisC&pg=PT11&lpg=PT11&dq="deep+space+twelve"&source=bl&ots=R6AF2HwKNA&sig=gIzK-lTEtCNajABdFhdOxj1_xwM&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi5kNKD5fPWAhWBmpQKHbldARwQ6AEITzAL#v=onepage&q="deep space twelve"&f=false
It's also mentioned on page 171 of Captains Logs Supplemental but in a second hand kind of recollection by the authors, where they are talking about the plot of the then upcoming Trek VIII and how a Borg fleet is approaching from the sector of Deep Space Twelve.
 
The Federation is apparently still around in the 31st Century, I dare say at that point the stations were numbered in the hundreds if not thousands.

If the Federation is still around in the 31st century, I'd suspect that there is very little space left to be considered "deep."
"Near Station 9"
"Not So Far Away Station 12"
 
If the Federation is still around in the 31st century, I'd suspect that there is very little space left to be considered "deep."
"Near Station 9"
"Not So Far Away Station 12"
They're not space stations at that point. Outward has been explored, so now exploration has turned inward. They're philosophy study centers. As in, "that's really DEEP, man". They have names like Deep 10, and Deep 13. And Deeeeeeep Huuuuuuurrrrtiiiing. :D
 
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