Was The Klingon Empire Part of The Federation in Season One?

[Hermiod]

The original intention was to have the Ferengi as the new major advesary to the Federation and to introduce new alien races. Unfortunately, the Ferengi were a disaster.

They turned out to be the comic relief.

And instead they quickly did an about turn and replaced them with the Romulans. Smart move, IMHO.

 

[Red Ranger]

Cooperation between the Federation and the Klingons was foreshadowed in their first appearance in Errand of Mercy. When the Organians stop the war between them, Ayelbourne says to Kirk and Kor that in the future, "You will be fast friends. You will work together." So TNG showed one step in the evolution of their relationship.

Another thought occured to me about the Klingon Empire. In a DSN ep, Ezri Dax observes that the Empire is dying -- the whole corrupt group, at that time embodied by Gowron. At some point, the Klingons will actually become a real part of the Federation, not just treaty partners, perhaps after some big upheaval in Klingon society.

Red Ranger

 

[Timo]

Then again, what would Ezri (or rather, Dax) know? Her (its) only motivation in that scene was to goad her (its) lover into becoming the next Chancellor. Hardly worth the effort if helming the Empire was a dead-end job.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[David cgc]

Those symbols still look superimposed on the viewscreen to me.

Then how is the Klingon obscuring one of them? They'd have to be behind him.

 

[Red Ranger]

Then again, what would Ezri (or rather, Dax) know? Her (its) only motivation in that scene was to goad her (its) lover into becoming the next Chancellor. Hardly worth the effort if helming the Empire was a dead-end job.

Timo Saloniemi

Timo:

I think Ezri Dax believed that Worf was the only man who could reform the Empire from within, as a more honorable Klingon than Gowron or the modern-day leadership.

Also, don't forget Ezri has Curzon's memories, and he was something of an expert on Klingons. So I'd say she has the perspective of an outsider who is also keenly aware of Klingon mores and customs.

Red Ranger

 

[Timo]

I think Ezri Dax believed that Worf was the only man who could reform the Empire from within, as a more honorable Klingon than Gowron or the modern-day leadership.

Then Ezri got you, too.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Red Ranger]

I think Ezri Dax believed that Worf was the only man who could reform the Empire from within, as a more honorable Klingon than Gowron or the modern-day leadership.

Then Ezri got you, too.

Timo Saloniemi

I was blinded by her t*ts! -- RR

 

[HRHTheKING]

I put it down to Wesley simply being a moron, and Picard having his mouthful of cucumber sandwiches and he couldn't be bothered to set Mary Sue Crusher straight.

 

[David]

Wasn't one of the Klingon Starships a Klingon-Starfleet co-design. I remember hearing that in one of the early seasons on TNG.

Cheers

Dave

 

[Ezri II]

I think Ezri Dax believed that Worf was the only man who could reform the Empire from within, as a more honorable Klingon than Gowron or the modern-day leadership.

Then Ezri got you, too.

Timo Saloniemi

I was blinded by her t*ts! -- RR

Looks down my shirt

This Ezri can give Ezri Dax a run for her money or cup size

 

[Squiggy]

I love you.

 

[Red Ranger]

Then Ezri got you, too.

Timo Saloniemi

I was blinded by her t*ts! -- RR

Looks down my shirt

This Ezri can give Ezri Dax a run for her money or cup size

Wow! To quote the Steve Miller Band, "Really love your peaches, let me shake your tree!" -- RR

 

[HRHTheKING]

Wasn't one of the Klingon Starships a Klingon-Starfleet co-design. I remember hearing that in one of the early seasons on TNG.

Cheers

Dave

Supposedly the Vor'Cha attack cruiser was based on Starfleet vessel designs.

 

[Timo]

One wonders, of course, how much of that was with Starfleet's consent...

Timo Saloniemi