I saw STID opening weekend in regular and last night saw it in 3D. Other than a couple scenes, didn’t really see a big difference in 3D, but that’s beside the point.
After the first viewing, I thought it was awesome and all, but after the second viewing I found myself saying I don’t know if I could watch this again as once you know Marcus is the main man pulling all the strings, the movie kinda plays out like Insurrection.
And one of the main qualms about Insurrection was that it was a glorified episode, nothing more nothing less.
And thinking about STID, I’m starting to feel like it was just a glorified episode in some ways. I definitely don’t have the same feeling as I did watching ST: The Future Begins / ST09 as that was something that felt epic. And it’s not that it was because Vulcan exploded in that one. It just felt bigger. And in some ways STID just repeated some of the stuff in ST09, and if it’s repeated, it’s not as epic as the first time.
Now that I think about it, it was such a waste to use Khan since he was a glorified pawn. With Nero I actually felt like he was a main villain that transcended average pawns. Even the music made Nero seem much bigger than life and I can’t even remember (after two showings) what Khan’s music was. Did he even have a dedicated sound that let you know he was a big deal?
Even the ending really bothers me. It pretty much contradicts two major movie points of what happened earlier in the movie. Earlier when Khan got stunned by Scotty, he quickly got the upper hand when Scotty wasn’t paying attention. At the end of the movie, when Uhura tells Spock that he needs to keep Khan alive to save Kirk, Spock looks up and pauses (obviously thinking about the possibility of Kirk being alive), well that split second was even longer than the time Scotty wasn’t paying attention, yet Khan doesn’t jump up and do something that would make sense like push Spock away, grab Uhura and/or escape. Then the other item was Spock himself told Kirk about not killing Khan and that he needs to stand a fair trial. Well what happens? Khan is captured at the end and placed back in his cryo tube. Are we to believe there was a trial and the judge decided it made sense to freeze him again? If so, the movie didn’t hint that at all, instead made it seem like Khan was captured and the first thing they did was put him in the cryo tube.
Even if you overlook those two issues with the ending, the ending itself felt so blah- like I said not epic enough. With Nero, his ship got blasted and there was a big scene about the ship going down, etc and all the Hollywood glitz and glamour of an ending you would expect. Now, I’m not saying they should’ve made it like Bay-formers with ‘splosins! all around, but still, a couple of punches, a couple of phaser stuns and the bag guy is captured? Did we not see Khan annihilate the Klingons all by himself? Seems to me Khan would go down in a bigger battle, especially since at this point in the movie Khan believes his 72 crew were actually killed by Spock, so he would be a raging lunatic.
So just everything kinda made the movie seem like a regular movie. Not something that was basically 4 years in the making and featured the greatest villain in ST history. I mean honestly, if they retconned it and said Nero was actually Khan, and Harrison was just Harrison, then that would be more believable since Nero did some epic things and went down with an epic ending.
After the first viewing, I thought it was awesome and all, but after the second viewing I found myself saying I don’t know if I could watch this again as once you know Marcus is the main man pulling all the strings, the movie kinda plays out like Insurrection.
And one of the main qualms about Insurrection was that it was a glorified episode, nothing more nothing less.
And thinking about STID, I’m starting to feel like it was just a glorified episode in some ways. I definitely don’t have the same feeling as I did watching ST: The Future Begins / ST09 as that was something that felt epic. And it’s not that it was because Vulcan exploded in that one. It just felt bigger. And in some ways STID just repeated some of the stuff in ST09, and if it’s repeated, it’s not as epic as the first time.
Now that I think about it, it was such a waste to use Khan since he was a glorified pawn. With Nero I actually felt like he was a main villain that transcended average pawns. Even the music made Nero seem much bigger than life and I can’t even remember (after two showings) what Khan’s music was. Did he even have a dedicated sound that let you know he was a big deal?
Even the ending really bothers me. It pretty much contradicts two major movie points of what happened earlier in the movie. Earlier when Khan got stunned by Scotty, he quickly got the upper hand when Scotty wasn’t paying attention. At the end of the movie, when Uhura tells Spock that he needs to keep Khan alive to save Kirk, Spock looks up and pauses (obviously thinking about the possibility of Kirk being alive), well that split second was even longer than the time Scotty wasn’t paying attention, yet Khan doesn’t jump up and do something that would make sense like push Spock away, grab Uhura and/or escape. Then the other item was Spock himself told Kirk about not killing Khan and that he needs to stand a fair trial. Well what happens? Khan is captured at the end and placed back in his cryo tube. Are we to believe there was a trial and the judge decided it made sense to freeze him again? If so, the movie didn’t hint that at all, instead made it seem like Khan was captured and the first thing they did was put him in the cryo tube.
Even if you overlook those two issues with the ending, the ending itself felt so blah- like I said not epic enough. With Nero, his ship got blasted and there was a big scene about the ship going down, etc and all the Hollywood glitz and glamour of an ending you would expect. Now, I’m not saying they should’ve made it like Bay-formers with ‘splosins! all around, but still, a couple of punches, a couple of phaser stuns and the bag guy is captured? Did we not see Khan annihilate the Klingons all by himself? Seems to me Khan would go down in a bigger battle, especially since at this point in the movie Khan believes his 72 crew were actually killed by Spock, so he would be a raging lunatic.
So just everything kinda made the movie seem like a regular movie. Not something that was basically 4 years in the making and featured the greatest villain in ST history. I mean honestly, if they retconned it and said Nero was actually Khan, and Harrison was just Harrison, then that would be more believable since Nero did some epic things and went down with an epic ending.
