Was Keiko always a Pah Wraith?
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Money is not the only form of compensation.
Somebody gets the beautiful waterfront mansion, but there's not enough mansions for everyone who wants one; maybe it's allocated based on service record in some nonmonetary way, like bigger quarters on DS9.
There's status, and job satisfaction. Sure, Sisko could have passed on DS9 and gotten a job pushing paper at Starfleet Headquarters perhaps. Or continued to design new starships at the shipyard. Where would be the pride in Jake's voice when he talks about his dad the station commander? "My dad is a minor functionary at Starfleet Personnel"? Service on DS9 probably seemed like a nice safe assignment compared to starship duty, as has been pointed out. I'm not sure growing up on DS9 was at all a bad childhood for Jake. Sure, the school was a bit hit and miss, okay for a while but Keiko left after not that long, but Jake seemed to do okay studying online. He wouldn't have had the lightsailing experience in Explorers, or 1 on 1 study with O'Brien, or 50 other experiences that made his life richer than it would have been on Earth.
I agree it's a retcon but I also think you can kinda rationalise it as something like they existed in their dimension without understanding linear time until Sisko interacted with them and then every instance after that was taking place at the same time, including them realising they needed to go back and create Sisko's birth and send the Orbs to the Bajorans and do all the stuff with B'Hala and maybe even kick the Pah-Wraiths out of the Celstial Temple or whatever. I don't mind that it doesn't probably stand up to scrutiny because I think these stories where there's observers outside linear time like the Prophets or Dr Manhattan are really, really hard to do right, so I don't mind if they kinda cheat at the end and have everything taking place pretty much linear. I think that's the only way to have it make sense for the general audience, including me.
The real question is: Is Miles still possessed by that violent space criminal from Power Play?
This makes me want to see a sitcom about possessed Keiko and possessed Miles raising feral, teenaged Molly! The spend each episode trying to convince their friends that they have a normal, functioning family…“The Lyin’ O’Briens”!
This makes me want to see a sitcom about possessed Keiko and possessed Miles raising feral, teenaged Molly! The spend each episode trying to convince their friends that they have a normal, functioning family…“The Lyin’ O’Briens”!
Strongly implied? Um, no. At most it's your unsupported head canon. Miles never showed any interest in anyone but Keiko and briefly Kira in the episode with confused hormones when she was carrying Miles' and Keiko's baby. Julian never showed any interest in anyone male, and just looked at Garak like a deer in headlights.
And this is why people struggle with having heart-to-heart conversations.
Rush, rush, got the Keiko?
Buzz, buzz, gimme Keiko
Rush, rush, got the Keiko? (Oh, oh)
Yo, yo, no, no, Keiko (Oh, oh)
Shippers can be quite excessive; nothing of such nature was ever implied.
Besides, Bashir only has eyes for his one, true and canon, very obvious love interest.
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Well, I'd say Julian as written was oblivious to Garak's possible interest. I read Garak as possibly bisexual. Julian clearly likes girls and sees Miles as a big brother. Garak, to him, is a friend he has lunch with and discuss literature. And honestly, Garak has a lot of issues to work out before he can let his shields down with anyone. I'd say Mila was the person he let his shields down with as she was practically his mother (though Andrew Robinson wrote in "A Stitch in Time" that she was Garak's mother). But you realize that Garak has a hard time trusting anyone, even Julian...
Yes, I see Garak as not someone who could enjoy sex as pleasure or intimacy. Sex for him is just another tool that can help him accomplish a mission. Man, woman, whatever, he'll have it if it would help gain the trust of someone whose help he needs. Sort of a sad, almost a character defect, but that's what Cardassian spy school does for people. And it probably did help keep him alive.
I don't doubt that Mila was Garak's mother. It was established that Tain was his father, and who else might Tain possibly have been involved with for whom Tain would stick around long enough to know young Garak?
I don't doubt that Mila was Garak's mother. It was established that Tain was his father, and who else might Tain possibly have been involved with for whom Tain would stick around long enough to know young Garak?
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