Let's not forget that Jake had to borrow money from Nog just to buy a gift for his dad. A no-money economy definitely has some disadvantages.
Was Keiko always a Pah Wraith?
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Let's not forget that Jake had to borrow money from Nog just to buy a gift for his dad. A no-money economy definitely has some disadvantages.
I intended to clarify that I was referring to "Classic" Trek, i.e. TOS thru ENT. I forgot, and also forgot about Tuvok, who's also married (but like Phlox, we only see him with his wife briefly).
Since my PS4 bought a hole, and there's no Paramount app for PS5, I'm kind of behind on Discovery and Picard.
If you mean the arboretum, of course that wasn't going to work. Keiko appreciated the effort, but she is a research botonist. The job is going to new planets and document the plants there and how they fit into their ecosystem. An arboretum is a hobby for a gardener. It's as if they moved to a planet of a super-advanced civilization like the Q, where there were no broken machines to fix and nothing for a Starfleet engineer to do, and Keiko replicated a box of Lego for him to play with. How long do you think Miles would be happy with that? (Could he even thank her for the effort in a nonsarcastic way?)
The teaching gig could have had some potential. I'm a little disappointed they didn't keep the school open even if it was just a few kids. Teaching without support and kids at vastly different levels is a lot of work.
Okay, but I'd just as soon have been with Keiko and the cute kids than reenacting the Alamo with Julian three times a week like they're going to win this time.
He also offers to get her on an expedition going through the wormhole, or on Bajor...and she's still ice cold, because she has to do it herself, which is fine, but then she doesn't get to complain about it. Keiko married a Starfleet officer. She knew there were sacrifices that could potentially go along with that. She is the only one that limits herself in these situations. As we see throughout Trek, most Starfleet officers take posts away from their families for some amount of time. The only one making Keiko miserable...is Keiko. There's literally a world of oppurtunity at her door at the mouth of the wormhole, and until she actually does leave to do her own thing, she seems to just want to make Miles life miserable. Before he even starts the really deep friendship with Bashir.
More than all of this, "Data's Day" where they get married should have been titled,"The Universe Telling Miles NOT To Marry Keiko". Every red flag is there when we first see them together.
Personally I think they utterly ruined the series by troping Sisko into the role of the 'chosen one'.
Hey surprise buddy! Your mum isn't your real mum, here's this other mum of convenience who was possessed by an alien when she conceived you! Also she arranged for you to take command of deep space nine using the alien power of somehow!
Sisko could have just been an ordinary guy (as far as Starfleet officers can be ordinary) who just happened to have the right temperament and attitude for the job. But no, normal wasn't good enough for the last season.
Anyway, in a universe where Ben Sisko is the child of an alien wormhole god, it would make perfect sense for O'Brien's torturer to be a Pah Wraith.
Hey surprise buddy! Your mum isn't your real mum, here's this other mum of convenience who was possessed by an alien when she conceived you! Also she arranged for you to take command of deep space nine using the alien power of somehow!
Sisko could have just been an ordinary guy (as far as Starfleet officers can be ordinary) who just happened to have the right temperament and attitude for the job. But no, normal wasn't good enough for the last season.
Anyway, in a universe where Ben Sisko is the child of an alien wormhole god, it would make perfect sense for O'Brien's torturer to be a Pah Wraith.
"Ruined" the series? 
Unless the Universe is telling them to persevere in the face of difficulties...
Considering the luck that most Trek characters have in love, I think Miles/Keiko broke the mold. No marriage is perfect, but he and Keiko generally did right by each other. Aside from (1) when he was possessed by a disembodied alien convict, (2) when he was replaced by a replicant and everyone knew it but him, and (3) when she was possessed by the Bajoran equivalent of a demon.
Once a pah wraith, always a pah wraith.
"Ruined" the series?
Turning him into the hand-crafted christ-child of the Prophets, custom ordered to save the Alpha Quadrant was a bit much. Not sure if I'd say it "ruined" the show, but I personally think the show would have been better without it.
As for the threads topic. No. Keiko was an ordinary human who, at one point, was briefly posessed by a Ptha Wrath, as it happens in Star Trek. There are no indications AT ALL that she was ever anything else but an ordinary human woman.
And nonsense "theories" like that are the reason I left the Song of Ice and Fire fandom.
I'd think by having your pic be from Lower Decks would mean you're in for a bit of fun satire. Do I actually think she was a Pah Wraith? No, but it should make for fun discussion, though some people are taking it way too seriously. Gives us something new to talk about rather than the same topics rehashed constantly
...and a possible explanation for why she's so stern and unfeeling towards Miles occasionally.
She seems a competent teacher, but yes, it always bothered me that in the future all you have to do is declare yourself one.
^Actually, we saw little of how she taught after that episode where Winn comes in and yelled "blasphemy". After that, we mostly heard passing references about Jake and/or Nog doing projects.
Keiko's behavior in that episode was a bit too "holier than you" for me.
Keiko's behavior in that episode was a bit too "holier than you" for me.
These actually lend themselves to the original question. Did Keiko battle Kai Winn so hard because that's part of her destiny as a Pah Wraith?...or was Kai WInn just preaching Critical Race Theory, before it was popular?
It's not easy to gauge somebody's level of seriousness over the internet, so maybe point that out next time. Though I don't really see the entertainment in it either, I never saw Keiko as that bad. Some people just aren't as emotionally warm as others.
And as I said, I'm scarred from the Song of Ice and Fire fandom where people make "theories" out of the number a certain character went up or down the stairs or out of every mention of the colour black, and they *are* completely serious about it.
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