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Was Janeway written in as being Incompetent ?

Guy Gardener said:
Sounds like my last girlfriend.

What i didn't like is that the only time she wasn't incredibley trusting was when she met the Vadwaar. Them she kept at arms length for some UNKNOWN reason and got prepared to kick them in the nuts at the first sign of trechery... i mean until Chokotay spiked the broth, she was perfectly willing to go along with the Borg, and even almost signed an armistice with Seka and Kulla...

Her womans intuition is something to be marveled over.

I remember "Dragon's Teeth" differently. She allied with them for a very KNOWN reason--she needed help to get off of the planet and escape from the Turei and the Vaduaar claimed to be able to help Voyager use the subspace tunnels to get a shortcut home. That said, she remained wary of them, especially after her crew found their true history. When she found out how untrustworthy they had been, she said, "We said we'd try to help you make a new start, and I want to keep that promise, but I can't ignore history, Mister Gedrin." She would have been a fool to pass up the chance to have allies in defeating the Turei and in finding a shortcut home, but she was smart enough to keep her eyes and ears open about the Vaduaar and anticipate their treachery. I think she did well in that situation.

The Borg alliance is open to question, I suppose. She knew it was a "pact with the devil," but sometimes it's necessary to roll the dice when your back is against the wall. She made what she thought was a good decision based on the facts "as she knew them." Right or wrong, her daring decision got Voyager through Borg space and even garnered a former drone who gave them a leg up in dealing with the Borg at later dates. It's open to speculation how she would have handled the Borg differently if she hadn't been injured.

In "Alliance," the attempted armistice with Seska and Kulla was undertaken at Chakotay and Tuvok's suggestion--and only after they worked at convincing her. It failed, but I suppose it was something that had to be tried at some point. Yet, she wasn't "incredibly trusting" then, either, unless you mean she was trusting of her advisors that the attempt was worth trying.

Janeway consistently did what she thought was right, but usually had an alternative plan in her back pocket, just in case--"Counterpoint" is a great example of that. The only time she was really "caught up" was in "Bliss," when the entire crew was similarly fooled--except for Seven and Naomi, of course.

;)
 
Honestly, whatever way her character came across as, it was due to the inconsistency in which she was written by the writing staff and never meant as intentional.
 
Aunt kate, remember how kathy wanted to only activate some of the Vadwaar's ships but they activated all of them, and remember how she did not want to activate their weapons, but they activated all of them...
 
Before they betrayed her, while the other enemy was bombing her from space and mighty Voyager was grounded, Kathy's new ally in command of a vast fleet that could make the bombers flee in terror were asked to leave their hiding spaces piecemeal and toothless... Why did Janeway do that?

Janeway was atypically cautious with a race she had no business to be wary of... Which is what the other two examples I made were about with the kazon and the Borg. She invests trust in her enemies to try and turn them into allies. That's Starfleet. In Dragons teeth she didn't hand out any automatic trust gambling on creating a fiendship, she just decided to despise these people for no reason... BUT Las Vegas luck she turned out to be on the money with that gut decision... Because it was a pistake on the siege of Troy?

This story would have had more effect if Janeway had been blind sided and out smarted and then got her shit together to kick some ass and take some names. Instead it's about how she knows she's going to be betrayed and then she is betrayed and no big. It's like how Jesus let Judas sell him to the Romans and Herod. Seeing the future takes all the fun out of a back stabbing... Though I did enjoy it in Rome waiting for Brutus to stick it into Julius on the senate floor... Which brings us to DS9 as Julian and Garrak discussed the same subject about how novel it is to be blind to a clear and present danger.

"Sigh"
 
Guy Gardener said:
Janeway was insane.

No less so than the other Trek captains.

In fact the ONLY difference between Janeway and Kirk et al is time. Back in the 90's, people were still okay with Americans starting wars. :p
 
But that's because in the 90s they knew how to finish wars in a timely fashion comparable to Voyagers reset button.
 
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