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Was blowing up Romulus a good idea?

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I always understood that Nero's hatred was fueled by the death of his wife and son, no matter how nobly he cloaked it with comments about representing the "Romulan Empire."
 
I always understood that Nero's hatred was fueled by the death of his wife and son, no matter how nobly he cloaked it with comments about representing the "Romulan Empire."
However, his crew wouldn't have followed Nero on a crusade against the Federation that would make them labeled terrorists just because of his own personal loss. Presumably they lost their families and loved ones too, or is there still a thriving Romulan Empire with few casualties from the loss of Romulus and those who were lost were all related to someone on Narada? Damn unlucky ship.
 
Large losses would be inevitable in any planetary "death" - however Vulcan was destroyed in a manner of minutes and a few were able to be rescued, and when added to the Vulcan diaspora (which was rather limited in scope) there were around 10,000 total Vulcans in the galaxy.
The danger posed by Hobus was known... and there would have been time for at least a portion of the Romulan people to escape from the system. In addition, the Romulan Empire was quite extensive, with representatives and soldiers on hundreds of worlds. So the chances are the many millions of Romulans survived the death of their home planet.
 
The Romulans are among my favorite aliens in Trek. Personally, I thought it was a mistake to destroy both Romulus and Vulcan. Vulcan I could deal with since it was an alternate timeline, and was supposed to be different. Romulus, I never quite was on board with, since it was in the Prime timeline. Just was not necessary, and I had always believed we would one day see Romulus become allies in the same way the Klingons had. Both Unification, with Spock remaining on Romulus to become the "Romulan Surak," and Nemesis ending on a note of the Federation and Romulans may strike a new treaty, seemed anti-climatic after Star Trek 2009 just blows up Romulus.

The Romulan star going nova and destroying the system would be interesting an idea if there was a TV/movie series set in that time to examine the fall out of such an event, but as it was done (with a super nova that somehow threatened the galaxy) then it was pointless. The Romulan ship in NuTrek 1 could easily have fallen through a temporal anomaly and been thrown back in time, rather than crap about black holes and red matter.
Or could have been another Romulan planet that Nero's family was on. Still the same motivation for revenge without destroying Romulus.
 
Was it specifically stated that billions of Romulans were killed when Romulus was swallowed up by the Hobus supernova?

They killed billions on Vulcan in the same movie. I don't think they gave a shit. They had the entire remaining Vulcan population at 10,000, making them an endangered species, when you'd think after a thousand or two years in space, since the Romulans left at least, there'd be more of them off homeworld. Or with enough planetside and orbital ships and personal shuttles to increase that number by a lot.

I'd love it if the Romulans began massive planetary evacuation the moment they began looking to a foreign scientist in Spock to aid their plight, but Abrams & Co. did not think of or present any of that in the movie. But if Nero says they're the last of them, that may be retconned (for idiocy) later, but the presentation is that they're the last of them.
 
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They killed billions on Vulcan in the same movie. I don't think they gave a shit. They had the entire remaining Vulcan population at 10,000, making them an endangered species, when you'd think after a thousand or two years in space, since the Romulans left at least, there'd be more of them off homeworld. Or with enough planetside and orbital ships and personal shuttles to increase that number by a lot.

I'd love it if the Romulans began massive planetary invasion the moment they began looking to a foreign scientist in Spock to aid their plight, but Abrams & Co. did not think of or present any of that in the movie. But if Nero says they're the last of them, that may be retconned (for idiocy) later, but the presentation is that they're the last of them.

That makes Vulcans incredibly vulnerable to attacks. They're pretty much like a small village now.
 
Given that both Romulans and Vulcans were expansionist and, arguably, imperialist, there should have been plenty of colonies with plenty of surplus population.
 
They killed billions on Vulcan in the same movie. I don't think they gave a shit. They had the entire remaining Vulcan population at 10,000, making them an endangered species, when you'd think after a thousand or two years in space, since the Romulans left at least, there'd be more of them off homeworld. Or with enough planetside and orbital ships and personal shuttles to increase that number by a lot.

I'd love it if the Romulans began massive planetary evacuation the moment they began looking to a foreign scientist in Spock to aid their plight, but Abrams & Co. did not think of or present any of that in the movie. But if Nero says they're the last of them, that may be retconned (for idiocy) later, but the presentation is that they're the last of them.
It isn't always necessary to consider the feelings of a fictional race of people. When it comes to the main story and focus of any Trek film, it doesn't matter if Spock was one of 10,000 or one of 10,000,000,000.
In some respects, the story telling potential of Spock being one of a few is greater than Spock being one(half) of many.
 
It isn't always necessary to consider the feelings of a fictional race of people. When it comes to the main story and focus of any Trek film, it doesn't matter if Spock was one of 10,000 or one of 10,000,000,000.
In some respects, the story telling potential of Spock being one of a few is greater than Spock being one(half) of many.
It isn't necessary that I shut my brain off to enjoy someone else's lesser entertainment either. If a race of people can be disregarded 'Cause Laziness, then they can be regarded 'Cause Talent. What am I paying for?

No, I don't find genocide an unserious matter. Use it well, or fuck off.
 
They wiped out Romulus, Vulcan and the entire Prime Universe. Cheap doesn't even begin to describe it.
 
Genocide in a "real - world" situation is no laughing matter, that is for sure.
However, in fiction, especially in science fiction the idea that an entire race, planet, or sometimes even galaxy has been eliminated due to requirements of the story isn't uncommon, and it doesn't indicate a callousness or laziness on the part of the writer. The emotional impact of both the destruction of Vulcan and Romulus was given a tremendous amount of attention in nuTrek, to the point that it weighed heavily on the actions of multiple characters, indeed it was central to the entire plot.
 
I wouldn't mind if this thread featured more discussion of the specifics of Romulus being destroyed and was used less as a staging point for attacking the entire film/reboot series with arguments that many of us have already heard ad nauseum.
 
Genocide in a "real - world" situation is no laughing matter, that is for sure.
However, in fiction, especially in science fiction the idea that an entire race, planet, or sometimes even galaxy has been eliminated due to requirements of the story isn't uncommon, and it doesn't indicate a callousness or laziness on the part of the writer. The emotional impact of both the destruction of Vulcan and Romulus was given a tremendous amount of attention in nuTrek, to the point that it weighed heavily on the actions of multiple characters, indeed it was central to the entire plot.

It seemed pretty hackneyed to me. The specifics DonIago is talking about and I commented on were not well presented.

They were going to wipe out the entire Prime Universe Isolinear, Mr. laser Beam, but were mercifully stopped. That unnecessary step was not taken.

The problem with the Vulcan and Romulan genocides is that they seem to be steps not needed to be taken either. Not in the light-toned movie Abrams presented. A good villain almost(?) never needs that level of motivation. Lip service was given to the pain the characters felt, but both it and the deaths themselves were sauce for the romp through the Trekverse presented. The level of destruction was that of a thousand Munich or Schindler's List or The Killing Fields movies, yet it's all just part of the fun(!) of taking a trip to the Trekvers, kids!

The movie worked despite its genocidal components, not because of them.
 
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