Warp 10

[Stoo]

It's still odd that the crew of one ship, none of whom are full time research scientists and have limited time and resources, manage to pull off such a major scientific and technological breakthrough.

Honestly tho all this warp 10 stuff falls into the category of stuff only nerds like us care about. What's special about Threshold is that it manages to be awful on several levels, ie newt sex.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

It's still odd that the crew of one ship, none of whom are full time research scientists and have limited time and resources, manage to pull off such a major scientific and technological breakthrough.

DESTINY. Janeway, fixed point in time.

Why was Kirk there for so much key crucial shit? DESTINY. Not everyone gets to do this.

Honestly tho all this warp 10 stuff falls into the category of stuff only nerds like us care about. What's special about Threshold is that it manages to be awful on several levels, ie newt sex.

The newt sex was awesome. But I understand if not everyone is up to it.

 

[dub]

This is all highly experimental.

What if you got back to earth and the inoculation wore off unexpectedly during your big reunion?

Boom, and there's an arc for season 3. Very Xindi-like. A new race in the alpha quadrant: the Newt-toids. I bet Harry Kim's character would be better as a newt anyway. Or hey, maybe they accidentally slingshot around the sun on the way back to earth, and then they go back in time to earth in its early stages. And then we learn the human race actually evolved from the crew of Voyager. It's the circle of life. I can hear Elton John right now...

 

[Praetor]

It's also rather difficult to ignore the conceit that after warp technicians have been trying to reach warp 10 all over the galaxy for centuries, Paris figures it out on his own in a few weeks.

That would be like if I woke up tomorrow and suddenly cured cancer.

And ALSO rather difficult to ignore the fact that going warp 9.99999 doesn't turn you into lizards but does get you home in a few seconds.

Agreed overall. The only way it makes sense is if the special dilithium (combined with improved vehicle construction techniques) was the linchpin. And that's assuming that the effort was building on the "Great Experiment" of TSFS.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

This is all highly experimental.

What if you got back to earth and the inoculation wore off unexpectedly during your big reunion?

Boom, and there's an arc for season 3. Very Xindi-like. A new race in the alpha quadrant: the Newt-toids. I bet Harry Kim's character would be better as a newt anyway. Or hey, maybe they accidentally slingshot around the sun on the way back to earth, and then they go back in time to earth in its early stages. And then we learn the human race actually evolved from the crew of Voyager. It's the circle of life. I can hear Elton John right now...

There's something familiar about that..

 

[Lighthammer]

It's also rather difficult to ignore the conceit that after warp technicians have been trying to reach warp 10 all over the galaxy for centuries, Paris figures it out on his own in a few weeks.

That would be like if I woke up tomorrow and suddenly cured cancer.

And ALSO rather difficult to ignore the fact that going warp 9.99999 doesn't turn you into lizards but does get you home in a few seconds.

People tend to forget that they discovered a new type of dilithium in this episode. That's what allowed them to reach warp 10.

IIRC, it wasn't a new form of dilithium, but actually a different substance that the federation thought was only theoretical; kind of like Omega, but not!

Point taken though!

 

[Melakon]

All this talk about newt sex made my mind wander to politician Newt Gingrich, the last person I want to think about while thinking of sex.

 

[dub]

This is all highly experimental.

What if you got back to earth and the inoculation wore off unexpectedly during your big reunion?

Boom, and there's an arc for season 3. Very Xindi-like. A new race in the alpha quadrant: the Newt-toids. I bet Harry Kim's character would be better as a newt anyway. Or hey, maybe they accidentally slingshot around the sun on the way back to earth, and then they go back in time to earth in its early stages. And then we learn the human race actually evolved from the crew of Voyager. It's the circle of life. I can hear Elton John right now...

There's something familiar about that..

hmm?

 

[Guy Gardener]

Planet of the Titans?

 

[Noddy]

As I understand it, Threshold isn't regarded as canon, so we can safely ignore its oddities.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

What! Of course it's canon. IT IS GLORIOUS CANON.

Their beautiful children are listed by memoryalpha under Paris and Janeway's names. It's not in the apocrypha section. They exist. They are out there. They are coming back.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Everything on screen is canon... Except maybe the Animated Series?

Nothing is exempt, no matter how poorly acted or badly reasoned or plain false or morally absurd.

Live action tv or movie means canon.

In Doctor who there's 106 missing episodes (so far).

Poof.

Gone forever, and they're still canon.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Did we just spitroast someone Teacake?

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

We crushed their dreams.

 

[Gov Kodos]

Is it on screen, otherwise it's not canon.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Noddy is referring to the possibility of the decanonification of aired TV.

It's like trying to keep a face when people talk about their desire to reviginify.

Spiritual or surgical.

 

[KaraBear]

It's also rather difficult to ignore the conceit that after warp technicians have been trying to reach warp 10 all over the galaxy for centuries, Paris figures it out on his own in a few weeks.

That would be like if I woke up tomorrow and suddenly cured cancer.

And ALSO rather difficult to ignore the fact that going warp 9.99999 doesn't turn you into lizards but does get you home in a few seconds.

People tend to forget that they discovered a new type of dilithium in this episode. That's what allowed them to reach warp 10.

IIRC, it wasn't a new form of dilithium, but actually a different substance that the federation thought was only theoretical; kind of like Omega, but not!

Point taken though!

this is what they said:

PARIS: We discovered a new form of dilithium in the asteroid field we surveyed last month. It remains stable at a much higher warp frequency.

 

[dub]

Is it on screen, otherwise it's not canon.

It's canon, and yes this is mean
But what aired cannot be unseen
'Twas in Braga's mind
Shat out his behind
On a script, then onto the screen.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Could you imagine the awful fanfiction that would have been written if they'd called it something like "quadlithium" or "Hexolithium"?

 

[Bry_Sinclair]

Or bilithium, it swings both ways