Want a TNG style Padd?

[sojourner]

Hey, just thought I would let you guys know. If there are any tech junkies out there looking for a nice price on a neat tablet, Barnes and Noble is selling certified pre-owned Nook Colors on Ebay for $119.

It's a pretty cool little 7" unit that is easy to root/unlock allowing for great hacking potential.

Can't wait for mine to arrive so I can start modding it.

No link provided to keep this thread from looking too much like spam. Not sure how many units they have available, so good luck.

 

[YellowSubmarine]

The LCARS interface appears to be very suitable for such devices.

The older Nokia Internet tablets such as N800 used to have an interface that was very similar, and the LCARS theme on top would fit naturally. Unfortunately, to save screen space they changed the interface a bit, so that's no longer the case. I own an N900 and I'm currently using a theme motivated by the interface used in the TOS films, it's pretty cool, but...

I guess I could install a few fonts and write a fullscreen app with an LCARS interface for some of the things I do, but then the size is more suitable for a tricorder like the one in Nemesis than a PADD.

The Nook seems like a perfect fit.

 

[sojourner]

^Yeah, the Nook has a great form factor for it. Even the shape of the bezel with it's rounded edges are reminiscent of the Padd.

Oops, they increased the price to $129.

 

[Sheep]

I've owned one of these for almost a year now. It's a surprisingly great little device once you have CM7 running on it.

 

[sojourner]

^Are you running cm7 from an sd card? If so, have you seen anything in regards to update 1.4 and the possibility that it may lock out booting from SD?

 

[Sheep]

^Are you running cm7 from an sd card? If so, have you seen anything in regards to update 1.4 and the possibility that it may lock out booting from SD?

I installed CM7 internally. I'm running a months' old nightly (around 187 or so) that worked fine for me so I haven't bothered updating it to a newer build.

Sucks that B&N are being much more restrictive nowadays, locking the Nook Tablet's bootloader and possibly disabling booting from SD with the Nook Color. The Nook Color was SHOCKINGLY easy to root and slap a new ROM into.

 

[Arrqh]

CM7 on internal is the way to go. Putting stuff on the SD card is good if you're just dipping your toes in, but unless you have a really fast SD card the performance hits will get annoying. It's pretty easy to revert back to stock if you ever need to.

 

[sojourner]

^From what I have read, running from the SD is nearly as fast and the smart way to do it if you are worried about voiding the warranty. In fact, the recommendations I have seen are to run with a slower sd around class 4. Seems the class 10's can cause problems.

Hehe, been researching for when mine arrives this week. I'll have the SD loaded and waiting.

 

[Arrqh]

In my experience that definitely wasn't the case. I used a class 4 and there was definitely a performance hit though that was a while ago. Maybe there's been developments since then, I haven't paid much attention to the SD stuff recently. Even so, CM7 is stable and robust enough that there's no reason not to put it on EMMC in my opinion. The stock software is basically just wasted space.

 

[sojourner]

Apparently B&N sold over 11,000 of the NC through that sale this weekend. Damn, I wonder how long it'll take them to wade through shipping them all. I want mine yesterday!!

 

[sojourner]

FYI, some info I found concerning cm7 running from SD regarding speed:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1005633

 

[Blip]

The LCARS interface appears to be very suitable for such devices.

The older Nokia Internet tablets such as N800 used to have an interface that was very similar, and the LCARS theme on top would fit naturally. Unfortunately, to save screen space they changed the interface a bit, so that's no longer the case. I own an N900 and I'm currently using a theme motivated by the interface used in the TOS films, it's pretty cool, but...

Now some of those are nice...

 

[sojourner]

My Nook Color arrived monday. I had a sandisk 16gigabyte class4 mSD waiting with CM7 loaded. Runs great. Just as fast as the nook running straight from the onboard flash. The SD card you use makes a big difference in how well the device runs from the SD.

Now I am slowly customizing and adding apps to get it just how I want.

 

[Arrqh]

While I understand that different SD cards are going to behave differently, I still disagree with your conclusion. The link you posted earlier only compared between different SD cards, it didn't show anything about those cards vs. EMMC. Additionally, comparing CM7 on an SD to stock nook running on EMMC isn't a valid comparison. If you're happy with what you have, then that's fine of course, but I still think there's a performance hit on SD vs. EMMC.

In any case... this is the future.

 

[Sheep]

In any case... this is the future.

I think I just wet myself. I thought all the Nook devs had moved on to the Touchpad and wasn't counting on much in the way of an ICS ROM for the Nook Color. I hope the Nook Color is beefy enough to run ICS well.

 

[sojourner]

The Nook Tablet is locked down. I think until someone roots it the developers are going to stick with the NC.

While I understand that different SD cards are going to behave differently, I still disagree with your conclusion. The link you posted earlier only compared between different SD cards, it didn't show anything about those cards vs. EMMC.

The comparison is done to find which cards work best. There is no tool to test the sd vs. the emmc.

Additionally, comparing CM7 on an SD to stock nook running on EMMC isn't a valid comparison.

I am confused by this statement. Why wouldn't it be valid? In fact, this should be the only comparison that counts. Real world application.

If you're happy with what you have, then that's fine of course, but I still think there's a performance hit on SD vs. EMMC.

You may think it, but have you tried it with a card that has one of the better test results? So basically what you're saying is you haven't tried it and doubt the word from someone who has. excellent.

In any case... this is the future.

Oh no doubt, but until it's out - CM7 is what we've got.

 

[Arrqh]

The Nook Tablet is locked down. I think until someone roots it the developers are going to stick with the NC.

While I understand that different SD cards are going to behave differently, I still disagree with your conclusion. The link you posted earlier only compared between different SD cards, it didn't show anything about those cards vs. EMMC.

The comparison is done to find which cards work best. There is no tool to test the sd vs. the emmc.

Additionally, comparing CM7 on an SD to stock nook running on EMMC isn't a valid comparison.

I am confused by this statement. Why wouldn't it be valid? In fact, this should be the only comparison that counts. Real world application.

If you're happy with what you have, then that's fine of course, but I still think there's a performance hit on SD vs. EMMC.

You may think it, but have you tried it with a card that has one of the better test results? So basically what you're saying is you haven't tried it and doubt the word from someone who has. excellent.

Um, no. You missed it entirely. You haven't shown any evidence to show that any SD card is faster than internal, you've just shown that some SD cards are significantly better then others.

Your comparison isn't valid because you have CM7 (Android 2.3 and a bunch of custom stuff, including an overclocked and overvolted kernel) booting from the SD and you had the stock Nook OS (Android 2.2 and a less aggressive kernel) running on internal. There's too many other variables. Now if you compared CM7 on internal vs. CM7 on your SD, then it would be a valid speed comparison. For all you know, CM7 on internal is even smoother than either of the two options you've tried thus far. Android 2.2 to 2.3 in general had some pretty large performance gains.

So no, I'm not doubting "the word form someone who has" because you haven't done a fair comparison. Again, if you're happy with your setup then there's no reason to change anything, but your data is hardly conclusive enough to dismiss internal.

I think I just wet myself. I thought all the Nook devs had moved on to the Touchpad and wasn't counting on much in the way of an ICS ROM for the Nook Color. I hope the Nook Color is beefy enough to run ICS well.

As someone who owns both a Nook Color and a firesale Touchpad, I'm pretty surprised at which has it first! The thread now includes a flashable zip, but there's still a lot broken in it so I'm gonna give it a pass for now, but they're making good progress!

 

[sojourner]

^I never claimed to show evidence of the SD being faster than internal, only which SD works best. I also never claimed that CM7 from sd was faster than CM7 on emmc. What I did claim was that CM7 on SD ran just as fast (to my eyes) as the Nook OS on internal. Which is all that matters to me at this point. I wanted CM7 but did not want to take a performance hit by running from SD. Mission accomplished.

 

[sojourner]

Updated to 1.4 today on the Emmc. meh. does not compare to cm7.