Wall Street Journal article on "Star Trek"
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Thanks for finding the article.
There's a lot in there, but right off the bat I noticed this quote by Pine...
Pine: It's definitely not going to please everyone. There's a scene where my character is in a bar and he's definitely inebriated and under the influence of his own arrogance. It's him becoming the Kirk everyone knows. In my book that makes the journey a little more interesting. If he's a clear-cut leader from the beginning, you don't have anywhere to go.
[emphisis mine]
Bingo.
There's a lot in there, but right off the bat I noticed this quote by Pine...
Pine: It's definitely not going to please everyone. There's a scene where my character is in a bar and he's definitely inebriated and under the influence of his own arrogance. It's him becoming the Kirk everyone knows. In my book that makes the journey a little more interesting. If he's a clear-cut leader from the beginning, you don't have anywhere to go.
[emphisis mine]
Bingo.
Second bingo!
CaptainHawk1
Commodore
Third and the motion on the floor is carried.
My favorite part of the whole interview was at the end.
-Shawn
Third and the motion on the floor is carried.
My favorite part of the whole interview was at the end.
-Shawn
Even now I am waiting for the: "Why does Zachary Quinto keep insulting Trek fans?!!11!1!!!!!" thread.
New Thread: Quinto Calls Young Star Trek Fans "Nerds"? WTF!!
CaptainHawk1
Commodore
We should start a pool on when that's going to happen.
-Shawn
-Shawn
CaptainHawk1
Commodore
I say go for it. The worst it will get us is a warning if you haven't received one in a while.
The punishment is worth the crime.
-Shawn
The punishment is worth the crime.
-Shawn
Eh, why don't we just watch and see, okay?
Meh. Typical happy talk.
CaptainHawk1
Commodore
I've pretty much felt that way all along, and I hope that I'm right. I'm expecting it to be somewhat different, but if it's true to the spirit of TOS and it's ideals and the characters feel like the characters I've loved for forty years... Then yeah, I can buy into this.
"Star Trek" has always represented an incredible amount of optimism. In the late '60s, in a time of unrest, it represented this utopian world. As opposed to "The Dark Knight," which I enjoyed, but was so bleak and didn't speak kindly of humanity. Kirk is so iconic because he's the head of this fantastical utopian team. They aren't superheroes, they're men and women trying to achieve something good.
This idea that Star Trek, especially TOS is so optimistic bothers me. I remember watching it and seeing lots of pessimism too. We had the eugenics wars of the 1990's to look forward to, Kodos the Executioner handling poverty his style, the Romulan war that claimed Styles relatives lives, Orion pirates, extermination from residents of the Andromeda galaxy, racist Vulcans and Humans picking on Spock etc.
The real optimism was the fact that, in spite of ourselves and our fallible human nature - we still made it to the next few centuries. We didn't have to eliminate our passions, our values, out drives and desires to make it. Man of the future was not so different than we are like currently. The idea that we live in hell now but the future is Utopia is not the feel I got from TOS rather I felt like someone was slapping us on the back now saying You're OK and going to make just the way you are.
This idea that Star Trek, especially TOS is so optimistic bothers me. I remember watching it and seeing lots of pessimism too. We had the eugenics wars of the 1990's to look forward to, Kodos the Executioner handling poverty his style, the Romulan war that claimed Styles relatives lives, Orion pirates, extermination from residents of the Andromeda galaxy, racist Vulcans and Humans picking on Spock etc.
The real optimism was the fact that, in spite of ourselves and our fallible human nature - we still made it to the next few centuries. We didn't have to eliminate our passions, our values, out drives and desires to make it. Man of the future was not so different than we are like currently. The idea that we live in hell now but the future is Utopia is not the feel I got from TOS rather I felt like someone was slapping us on the back now saying You're OK and going to make just the way you are.
"You offer us only well-being. Food and drink and happiness mean nothing to us. We must be about our job. Suffering, in torment and pain, laboring without end. Dying and crying and lamenting over our burdens. Only this way can we be happy."
Yes, you are OK folks.
Just do a World war 3, kill each other by the millions and devastate Earth.
And a prosperous future will be yours
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