Agreed.
Not agreed.
Superman is perfect. He must be. That's the whole point of the character.
If you want an imperfect Superman, go watch Superman III and see what Kal-El was like when he was exposed to 'tar' Kryptonite.
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Agreed.
Not agreed.
Superman is perfect. He must be. That's the whole point of the character.
If you want an imperfect Superman, go watch Superman III and see what Kal-El was like when he was exposed to 'tar' Kryptonite.
Superman isn't perfect; He's an idealist. He's uncompromising in regards to his ideals, and often, but not always, unwavering. But, at his core, he is still a man, like any other, with hopes, desires, fears, needs, and regrets. If he were perfect, he wouldn't need to be Clark Kent half the time.
Painting superman as perfect also requires glossing over two very important implications of Superman's powers and activities, one of which can safely be glossed over for the sake of the genre, and one of which should never be ignored.
The most obvious, but most easily ignored, is the simple fact that Superman, with all of his powers and access to Kyrptonian technology, is capable of great humanitarian acts. If he set his efforts and technology towards growing food, he could feed starving people in third world countries, saving millions of lives every year. And he could do even more. He could use clean Kryptonian energy sources to end human dependence on fossil fuels. He could grab a few Kryptonian medical texts from his fortress and teach doctors techniques that could save many lives, and he could patent and produce Kryptonian medical devices to serve the same ends. Instead, the best use he can find for all of his powers and technologies is punching criminals in the face. A noble use, probably, but one far less effective than other potential paths he could take towards helping the world. We can ignore this, because it is a central conceit of the entire superhero genre. If heroes and villains alike actually put their powers to practical use, there wouldn't be very many stories to tell, and the world would be a utopia far divorced from the one that we live in.
The other, however, while forgivable, is certainly central to Superman's character. The simple fact is that he can't save everyone, and he has accepted that. Superman has super hearing. In some incarnations, he could make out a pin drop on the other side of the planet if he wanted to. In others, his hearing is more limited, but still extremely impressive. Every time someone cries for help in Metropolis, he can hear it. Every time someone screams in pain, he can hear it. He can hear every rape and every murder. Every robbery, every act of child abuse, every time a vandal breaks a window, and every time a tagger shakes a can of paint, he can hear it all. Most of it, he doesn't do a damn thing about.
There is just too much out there; if he tried, it would drive him insane. So instead, be blocks it out and spends his day working at a newspaper. He dines with Lois. He hangs out with his superhero friends, both in their various clubhouses and occasionally at superhero themed restaurants. And while he is doing this, there are countless screams for help all over the world that he makes a very strong effort to not hear. He justifies this by telling himself that interfering in every little crime or disaster would encourage normal people to depend on him far too much. He justifies it by telling himself that he doesn't have the right to invade the privacy of the entire globe, or even an entire city, by listening to everyone all the time. And there is most certainly some truth to these concerns, but it is also true that the real reason he does not listen for every little cry for help is that even he needs to rest, relax, and have normal human contact, just like everyone else. If he let himself fall into the trap of trying to save everyone, he would never have a moment's peace.
Edit: sorry about that. This is the frst board I posted on where you have to enter hard returns manually. Usually, just hitting enter will do the job.
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Superman is money.
They are well versed on comic books since they already read lots of Japanese manga and the Wachowskis gave us cinematic wonders like Speed Racer
I kinda thought they did reboot Superman a little in the last two Matrix movies. But whatever, it's got to be better than a Plastic Man movie.
because having Neo unlock "flight" and the "he's doing the superman thing" wasn't enough?
I was always interested in a Neo versus Superman idea. The dilemma though, is that there would never be an opportunity for a fair fight. In Neo's Real world, Clark would not have the benefits of the suns yellow rays, and in the Matrix, he would have no more special abilities than the lady in the red dress. On the other hand, in Superman's world, Mr Anderson would probably get his ass kicked by Jimmy Olson. Two superhero types so similar on so many levels, yet they can never find a common battlefield. I suppose they could slug it out as two regular guys in Neo's Real world, but that would hardly be a super battle.
That was me who said that. But I went on to point out how bad the scripts for the Matrix sequels were. So I said that if they were to make a Superman movie or series, I'd want someone else to write it/ them. If they were directing a good script, it could end up being something impressive.
Superman's powers aren't blocked by clouds/pollution/etc. He has powers just fine at night and during overcast. Being in the presence of a Yellow Sun would be enough for him to be powered in Neo's "real world."
AMEN!
They can do CGI damn well, maybe too well that it requires little to no actual sets at all
But that's the thing about the Matrix - it isn't a real world. More like a giant holodeck. Or, more to the point, a dream world. If Superman entered the Matrix, he would not be exposed to a real yellow sun - only a simulation of one. And it wouldn't be his real body walking around, either. There is no physical reality in the Matrix - it's all simulation. Kind of like Unimatrix Zero.
But that's the thing about the Matrix - it isn't a real world. More like a giant holodeck. Or, more to the point, a dream world. If Superman entered the Matrix, he would not be exposed to a real yellow sun - only a simulation of one. And it wouldn't be his real body walking around, either. There is no physical reality in the Matrix - it's all simulation. Kind of like Unimatrix Zero.
An in-brain simulation where people can bend the laws of physics if their aware that it is a simulation.
Ok... -sheeesh I can't believe we're discussing this-
Originally I thought the poster of that tangent said Superman and Neo would be in the real world. Where Superman would have his powers and Neo wouldn't -well, except in the third movie which... sigh.
Anyway, Superman IN the Matrix. His body would still be under the influence of the Yellow Sun so he would still have his "superpowers" which in many interpretations includes super mental powers. Which means he should have all of his abilities and likely much, much, more IN The Matrix. He's be a SUPER-Superman!
Originally I thought the poster of that tangent said Superman and Neo would be in the real world. Where Superman would have his powers and Neo wouldn't -well, except in the third movie which... sigh.
Anyway, Superman IN the Matrix. His body would still be under the influence of the Yellow Sun so he would still have his "superpowers" which in many interpretations includes super mental powers. Which means he should have all of his abilities and likely much, much, more IN The Matrix. He's be a SUPER-Superman!
But that's the thing about the Matrix - it isn't a real world. More like a giant holodeck. Or, more to the point, a dream world. If Superman entered the Matrix, he would not be exposed to a real yellow sun - only a simulation of one. And it wouldn't be his real body walking around, either. There is no physical reality in the Matrix - it's all simulation. Kind of like Unimatrix Zero.
An in-brain simulation where people can bend the laws of physics if their aware that it is a simulation.
Good point. I guess the self-awareness determines a large part of it, then. If they plug Clark in and he believes he has his powers, then why shouldn't he, with no regard to whether there is sunlight?
Original 'Matrix' aside, the Wachowskis still suck and better stay the hell away from Superman. His odds of getting fucked over in whatever the next movie is are too high without their involvement.
Christ...not this shit again.
Since Speed Racer was based on an anime, then the movie did it's job!
In fairness, while it has it's flaws, I actually liked Speed Racer (much to my surprise).
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