Vulcan's school

[Rackon]

the movie concept of the planet was visually stunning. loved the Katric Arc in the caves in the cliffs, et al.

actually, this is the reason I am not completely okay with the destruction of the planet and no reset button. I mean, seriously, we finally get a really good look at the place in the movie (admit it, people, they showed us more of Vulcan in this movie than we saw in any series -- okay, except ENT -- or the movies), and it's... GONE?!?!

dammit.

Yup, they finally get it right and it's - GONE.

Oh well.

I am finally used to the idea of no more Vulcan. But I'm sorry there won't be any more great visuals of it. I doubt we're gonna get any flashbacks from Abrams.

OTOH, I'm totally on board with no resets. If you're gonna do it, stick with it. Enough time travel.

 

[RobertScorpio]

the movie concept of the planet was visually stunning. loved the Katric Arc in the caves in the cliffs, et al.

actually, this is the reason I am not completely okay with the destruction of the planet and no reset button. I mean, seriously, we finally get a really good look at the place in the movie (admit it, people, they showed us more of Vulcan in this movie than we saw in any series -- okay, except ENT -- or the movies), and it's... GONE?!?!

dammit.

Yup, they finally get it right and it's - GONE.

Oh well.

I am finally used to the idea of no more Vulcan. But I'm sorry there won't be any more great visuals of it. I doubt we're gonna get any flashbacks from Abrams.

OTOH, I'm totally on board with no resets. If you're gonna do it, stick with it. Enough time travel.

Actually? Watching them have to rebuild their workd, with older-SPOCK in more of a Surak role now? I think that might be more interesting to see that than musty old Vulcan anyway...a new Vulcan shaped in Spock's vision..

Yeah...I know..I amaze myself sometimes...

Rob

 

[gimpy117]

as a senior who just graduated,I would have hated to do something like that. One of the school's min lessons is social dynamics, and putting kids in separate rooms is not only boring, but it kills this element of leaning how to get along with others.

 

[scottydog]

as a senior who just graduated,I would have hated to do something like that. One of the school's min lessons is social dynamics, and putting kids in separate rooms is not only boring, but it kills this element of leaning how to get along with others.

True enough. Emotionless Vulcans may not need social skills, but humans sure do!

 

[Captain Fine]

the movie concept of the planet was visually stunning. loved the Katric Arc in the caves in the cliffs, et al.

actually, this is the reason I am not completely okay with the destruction of the planet and no reset button. I mean, seriously, we finally get a really good look at the place in the movie (admit it, people, they showed us more of Vulcan in this movie than we saw in any series -- okay, except ENT -- or the movies), and it's... GONE?!?!

dammit.

Yup, they finally get it right and it's - GONE.

Oh well.

I am finally used to the idea of no more Vulcan. But I'm sorry there won't be any more great visuals of it. I doubt we're gonna get any flashbacks from Abrams.

OTOH, I'm totally on board with no resets. If you're gonna do it, stick with it. Enough time travel.

Are we talking about the same Abrams here? Abrams of LOST?!?

 

[MacGyvr]

I loved that school setting on Vulcan in TREK XI. I think they should do that here on EARTH, in reality. It would cut down on all the screwing around kids do while in class. Put each kid in an alcove, with a desk, and let the teacher walk above them, monitoring what they are doing...

the school system here in USA is so f-ucked up, that this kind of atmosphere at school could only help!!!! Sign up the Vulcan School Construction team right now!!!!

Rob

Actually, it already exists here. Look for info on the ACE Curriculum.

 

[Franklin]

You know, the method they were using for the schools in this movie was just an expansion of the method by which Spock was testing himself in TVH. Another neat little piece of attention to detail and continuity, there.

And, as far as we know, this drilling didn't make up the entire school day. I'm sure even Vulcans understand the logic of having good communications skills. Their debate classes are probably murder.

 

[SilentP]

actually, this is the reason I am not completely okay with the destruction of the planet and no reset button. I mean, seriously, we finally get a really good look at the place in the movie (admit it, people, they showed us more of Vulcan in this movie than we saw in any series -- okay, except ENT -- or the movies), and it's... GONE?!?!

dammit.

Well if there are going to be more Star Trek movies done by the same lot, I'd take this as a good sign. If they make a setting like this look so good, even when it's going to be destroyed, it shows a level of dedication to detail and feel that I'd be happy to see continued throughout any other following movies

 

[KimMH]

the movie concept of the planet was visually stunning. loved the Katric Arc in the caves in the cliffs, et al.

actually, this is the reason I am not completely okay with the destruction of the planet and no reset button. I mean, seriously, we finally get a really good look at the place in the movie (admit it, people, they showed us more of Vulcan in this movie than we saw in any series -- okay, except ENT -- or the movies), and it's... GONE?!?!

dammit.

I'm not okay with the destruction of Vulcan at all. I love the success of the movie and the new life it's given the franchise but I really hate this about it. I have other quibbles but they are only quibbles relative to my feelings about this.

 

[RobertScorpio]

the movie concept of the planet was visually stunning. loved the Katric Arc in the caves in the cliffs, et al.

actually, this is the reason I am not completely okay with the destruction of the planet and no reset button. I mean, seriously, we finally get a really good look at the place in the movie (admit it, people, they showed us more of Vulcan in this movie than we saw in any series -- okay, except ENT -- or the movies), and it's... GONE?!?!

dammit.

I'm not okay with the destruction of Vulcan at all. I love the success of the movie and the new life it's given the franchise but I really hate this about it. I have other quibbles but they are only quibbles relative to my feelings about this.

i like the destruction of Vulcan because it took balls to do it, and gives the movie 'gravity'. And, as I said earlier, they could do a whole book series showing SPOCK help found a new world for Vulcans (hint hint Greg Cox!!!)

So..I'm all for it.

Rob

 

[Dan Stack]

I would imagine the school-pits are part of their education but not the whole thing - i.e. useful for drilling, getting certain facts deeply embedded into the brain. My wife is a high school teacher and both in her education classes and in practice getting useful collaboration amongst students is a part of the learning process.

 

[RobertScorpio]

I would imagine the school-pits are part of their education but not the whole thing - i.e. useful for drilling, getting certain facts deeply embedded into the brain. My wife is a high school teacher and both in her education classes and in practice getting useful collaboration amongst students is a part of the learning process.

if they're not getting shot at, or being sold drugs, or if their teacher isn't seducing them, and or, other kids are trying to cop a feel.

ALCOVE schools are the way to go...

Rob

 

[Jeri]

Regarding what young Spock was studying, specifically the mention of the words "nonrival" and "nonexcludable":

The Utopian Economics of Star Trek

Andrew Leonard

May. 11, 2009 |

There are many clever moments in the thoroughly satisfying new "Star Trek" movie, but the one that has economists chattering is more than just smart: It strikes right to the core of what the Star Trek future is all about.

The scene comes early, when a pre-pubescent Spock is undergoing the formidable educational process inflicted on all Vulcan children. We see and hear him say the words "nonrival" and "nonexcludable" (and we can imagine his computer tutor nodding encouragingly).

And then we move on, without explanation. To my children, and, I imagine, to most Trekkies, the moment was just one more jargonistic outburst in a franchise that has always delighted in excessive indulgence in meaningless techno-gibberish. But the economists in the audience all started high-fiving each other: Whoa, who could have expected a shout-out to economist Paul Romer's breakthrough paper, "Endogenous Technological Change," in a "Star Trek" movie? Awesome! (Continued...)