Vulcan's New Home

[Sector 7]

As we learn at the end of the movie, Spock Prime has already located a suitable planet on which to establish a colony. He says so to Quinto\Spock.
So, that's where Vulcans are going to live.


As for unification...at this point in history and under the circumstances I doubt that either Romulans or Vulcans would care for it.

Even in the 24th century reunification was going to be a long, slow process. In the 23rd century it may be nearly impossible to accomplish.

If Vulcans wait for ponn farr they will never rebuild their 'endangered species'! Some traditions may need to change for continued survival.

It's not a tradition but a biological imperative.

But please see above - Vulcans can and do mate (and conceive) at times other than during pon farr.

Moreover, as an especially long lived race, they have many more child bearing years in which to do it -at minimum 2-3 times the number of years of human females.

I think the Vulcans will do just fine. I think the biologically able will be in the mood.

But I don't think they will be in the mood for a raproachment with their "sundered" cousins, The Rommies, or vice versa, just yet (for myriad reasons stated in another thread on the same subject).

Perhaps you should read my comments in context with the rest of the thread before attempting to "correct" them.

 

[Captain_Rogers]

Unfortunately the Fontana reply makes less sense than fan presumptions based on the original series.

As Amok Time implied it was a biological imperative, much like Salmon who return to their native rivers to spawn.

It's actually more logical to presume that Vulcans only reproduce every seven cycles as a natural biological deterrent to over population in an ecosystem that is mostly arid and hostile.

In nature, long lived species breed in smaller numbers and less frequently than short lived species. This can be seen in numerous reptiles, fishes and amphibians. While there are exceptions to this, such as biological adaptions due to predation, it's a reasonable foundation for establishing said traits in a fictional universe.

I guess the question is really, since it wasn't actually answered inthe MA post, maybe they can MATE whenever they want to, but are they actually fertile and capable of producing offspring at times other than Ponn Farr?

Personally, I would like to think that answer is no as it presents a dilema for the surviving Vulcans. If they can breed like cockroaches as humans can, their dilema is not as dire.

If there is a limitation due to biological factors, Vulcans are faced with moral and ethical concerns about the future of their species. In light of their few numbers, might they decide eugenics as viable or even necessary for their continued survival? Cloning and genetic engineering to ensure their continued existence would make for great drama.

Like in the 60's, Trek dealt with current social and political issues, and cloning and genetic engineering is a hotly debated topic in our world today.

Sounds like a natural fit.

 

[Yeoman Randi]

Unfortunately the Fontana reply makes less sense than fan presumptions based on the original series.

As Amok Time implied it was a biological imperative, much like Salmon who return to their native rivers to spawn.

It's actually more logical to presume that Vulcans only reproduce every seven cycles as a natural biological deterrent to over population in an ecosystem that is mostly arid and hostile.

In nature, long lived species breed in smaller numbers and less frequently than short lived species. This can be seen in numerous reptiles, fishes and amphibians. While there are exceptions to this, such as biological adaptions due to predation, it's a reasonable foundation for establishing said traits in a fictional universe.

I guess the question is really, since it wasn't actually answered inthe MA post, maybe they can MATE whenever they want to, but are they actually fertile and capable of producing offspring at times other than Ponn Farr?

Personally, I would like to think that answer is no as it presents a dilema for the surviving Vulcans. If they can breed like cockroaches as humans can, their dilema is not as dire.

If there is a limitation due to biological factors, Vulcans are faced with moral and ethical concerns about the future of their species. In light of their few numbers, might they decide eugenics as viable or even necessary for their continued survival? Cloning and genetic engineering to ensure their continued existence would make for great drama.

Like in the 60's, Trek dealt with current social and political issues, and cloning and genetic engineering is a hotly debated topic in our world today.

Sounds like a natural fit.

Thats a really interesting spin on the subject. It certainly would make for more interesting plotlines. Verrrrrrrry interesting!

 

[msbae]

If there is a limitation due to biological factors, Vulcans are faced with moral and ethical concerns about the future of their species. In light of their few numbers, might they decide eugenics as viable or even necessary for their continued survival? Cloning and genetic engineering to ensure their continued existence would make for great drama.

Like in the 60's, Trek dealt with current social and political issues, and cloning and genetic engineering is a hotly debated topic in our world today.

Sounds like a natural fit.

I agree.

 

[Rackon]

Even in the 24th century reunification was going to be a long, slow process. In the 23rd century it may be nearly impossible to accomplish.

If Vulcans wait for ponn farr they will never rebuild their 'endangered species'! Some traditions may need to change for continued survival.

It's not a tradition but a biological imperative.

But please see above - Vulcans can and do mate (and conceive) at times other than during pon farr.

Moreover, as an especially long lived race, they have many more child bearing years in which to do it -at minimum 2-3 times the number of years of human females.

I think the Vulcans will do just fine. I think the biologically able will be in the mood.

But I don't think they will be in the mood for a raproachment with their "sundered" cousins, The Rommies, or vice versa, just yet (for myriad reasons stated in another thread on the same subject).

Perhaps you should read my comments in context with the rest of the thread before attempting to "correct" them.

Sorry - maybe you should note my happy face

Cheers.

 

[npsf3000]

Personally, I would like to think that answer is no as it presents a dilema for the surviving Vulcans. If they can breed like cockroaches as humans can, their dilema is not as dire.

From billions to thousands and you say their dilemma is not dire?

 

[Captain_Rogers]

Personally, I would like to think that answer is no as it presents a dilema for the surviving Vulcans. If they can breed like cockroaches as humans can, their dilema is not as dire.

From billions to thousands and you say their dilemma is not dire?

Sounds like you need to re-read because you clearly didn't understand it the first time around.