Discussion in 'Star Trek: Voyager' started by Sophie74656, Jul 10, 2017.
Yes, Vesek. My story will get into that idea. B'Elanna will be in the story, too.
Well then you know I'll want to read it
I'll try to do my best, then. And I'll try to get it done as soon as I can.
I could never have guessed!
This one is also very good with the Alcawellians which were able to travel in time and between dimensions. I also liked the fact that some of it described the secenario from an Alcawellian Control agent's perspective, not to mention that Drickel was very sympatic too.
And B'Elanna is a main character in this story too!
Note also that Seska have an imortant role just as an engineer here. As mentioned in your post, the book was written before the series was aired so the author couldn't know that Seska would be revealed as a Cardassian later on.
I like "Mosaic" too. I agree that the flashbacks into Janeway's past are very interesting and the main story with some of the crew members stranded on that planet is very exciting.
However, I must say that I find the young Janeway very insecure and also a bit wimpy. There must have been a remarcable change in personality after her father's death and before she became Captain on the Bonestell.
Jeri Taylor also put a remarcable stress on Janeway's strained relationship with her father, a scenario which also shows up for some of the main characters in "Pathways".
Anyway, "Mosaic" is among my top 10 Voyager books and I find "Pathways" excellent reading too.
Malons also appear in sections of TNG: Q & A, and reference Demons of Air and Darkness.
In STO, they have to be chased away from New Talax so as not to pollute that planet, and they end up not joining the Delta Alliance.
I just finished reading the String Theory trilogy. I have a question. I'm a little confused about the epilogue. I'm putting it in spoilers in case someone reading this thread hasn't read it and might want to later.
Spoiler: A question about the epilogue
The Kes that returned to Ocampa in the epilogue. Was she the one who fought the Nacene who was referred to as "Pheobe"? And was the one who was already there the one who had the unfortunate encounter with Voyager in Fury? Or was it the other way around?
I enjoyed the books. It gave a good explanation for the void they found themselves in at the beginning of season 5. And it delved into the beginning of Torres self-harm and how she was using it to deal with depression.
It's been a while since I've read all three books so don't remember those exact details, but I'm curious how you liked the series?
You know me, I loved the second book I always thought it would be funny if B'Elanna and Seven's link had some kind of lasting effect, where evey once in a while they would speak in unison and finish each other's sentences.
I did like it very much.
It did seem like Torres and Seven understood each other better after that.
The "String Theory" books are good but heavy-read.
What I really appreciate is that they do away with a lot of crap from a certain episode in season 6.
However, I don't understand why all authors are so keen on following that "Kes goes back to Ocampa" track.
kes is an adventurer and explorer, the "going back to Ocampa" is very "un-Kes" so to say.
I don't understand why you are so against the thought of her wanting to help her own people. I think it would be VERY Kes-like to use her new resources to make sure her people were surviving.
I thought it was hilarious when Seven had to suffer through B'Elanna's dreams about Tom. I still laugh about that.
Me too There needs to be an additional scene where Seven asks her about something she saw in one of those dreams LOL
I would gladly "suffer" through those dreams
Even after they were no longer part of their collective of 2, Seven (while she was regenerating) felt B'Elanna get kissed on the cheek.
Would anybody be intereted in a "book club"? We can agree on which book we will read and on a certain date someone will start a thread about that book and we can discuss....then plan the next book and the date for the next thread and such
Because that solution prevents her to be a permanent member of the Voyager crew again in the books.
What if B'Elanna was written out of the books with some explanation about her becoming the Empress of the Klingon Empire. Would you find the books as interesting without B'Elanna?
I can also give a more un-personal explanation. As I wrote before, Kes is an explorer who wants to learn and explore. Why should she want to go back?
Besides that, I think that the Ocampa can care for themselves.
I think this is a great idea, but for me, personally, my free time so limited right now that I likely wouldn't be able to participate regularly.
I don't really see her as an explorer as so much as someone that wants to learn about themselves and tap the mystery of who she is. She has also been shown to have an undying need to help the ones she loves. When on Ocampa, this translated to her wanting to leave the planet, to see what her people were capable of outside of their hamster cage. On Voyager, it translated to exploring the unknown and also exploring her mind and powers while still caring for the crew as a nurse. When I look at it that way, her unlocking her powers and looking into herself, and having a need to go back to where she came from to help the people she left behind is very much in line with her personality and is a reasonable ending to her story arc.
For me, labeling her as 'an explorer' seems too simplistic. Now this isn't to say that I'm completely happy with her being written out of the books, it would definitely have been nice to have her around once in a while just being Kes and exploring her as a character, but the series itself, elevating her to super-being seemed to make that pretty difficult.
That's really what it comes down to for you isn't it...nothing to change Kes being the star of Voyager.
I would still certainly enjoy the series without B'elanna I would certainly still enjoy the series. There are many other great characters that I love and would still want to read about. I'm a fan of VOYAGER not just one character
I very much agree with this. It would be OUT of character for her to develop super powers and NOT want to help her own people.
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