Yes, because no one has ever heard of a saucer in science fiction before. That's madness.
Voyager fans.. are you disappointed about Discovery?
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You don't know what it looks like? O_o
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Those are not my memories.. this is what I actually said: "We're not in the liberated, challenge the system Sixties or the Eighties I remember with its fashions and color."
That is ALL I said.. and the fun and color was in reference to Eighties fashions.
Oh it is kind of.. cute.
See, this is why I will defend the Oxford comma until my dying breath.
Keep on fighting!
Don't encourage her.. God knows what else she going say I've said next.
*grabs popcorn*
TNG: Huge success.
DS9, VOY, ENT: Downward ratings spiral. That's your familiarity breeding contempt.
The three biggest money Trek movies of all are Into Darkness, The Motion Picture and Star Trek - all set in the same era as Discovery.
Didn't take long to find this..
As Herb Solow and Bob Justman put it in their book about the making of the series:
From the premiere of 'Man Trap' to the finale 'Turnabout Intruder,' despite all the letter-writing campaigns, marches on and harassment of the network, after all the petitions and phone calls and everything else, Star Trek’s Nielsen ratings had dropped by well over fifty percent from birth to death.
- Herbert F. Solow and Robert H. Justman, Inside Star Trek: The Real Story (1996), p.415
Just comparing apples with apples..
As Herb Solow and Bob Justman put it in their book about the making of the series:
From the premiere of 'Man Trap' to the finale 'Turnabout Intruder,' despite all the letter-writing campaigns, marches on and harassment of the network, after all the petitions and phone calls and everything else, Star Trek’s Nielsen ratings had dropped by well over fifty percent from birth to death.
- Herbert F. Solow and Robert H. Justman, Inside Star Trek: The Real Story (1996), p.415
Just comparing apples with apples..
Not apples to apples, there is a twenty-plus year difference and TV is quite different in the two eras (just as it is now versus 1987-2005). Plus, none of the spinoffs had the second life in syndication that TOS had. In one of the myriad of books I've read over the years, TOS was referred to as "the family jewels" within Paramount.
Well yes it IS apples to apples. If someone puts up a graph that isolates a supposed decline in ratings for say DS 9 and Voyager (though I had included TNG as a factor earlier).. no context to their era allowed, that is ignoring seven season successes.. but then expect TOS to have an isolated definition of its failing in ratings dismissed.. then that's cheating. If TNG, DS9 and Voy declined or even if just two of those did, in isolation of anything else, then so did TOS delcine in isolation. Padding TOS with what came after is all very well and good but why pretend it isn't.. padding? The Original has had success beyond its first airing I get that. However it was cancelled. Showing how DS9 presented a downward trend does not take away TOS had its downward trend too.
Apples to apples.
I think you might also consider that the success of TOS in syndication is because it is bloody old! It has had more time to be played to death than the others, lol. Some of us are over it..
Apples to apples.
I think you might also consider that the success of TOS in syndication is because it is bloody old! It has had more time to be played to death than the others, lol. Some of us are over it..
TOS was a huge hit in syndication right off the bat, as soon as it hit. That was what lent to its longevity. It is what led to the animated series (1973), the movies series (1979) and, eventually, TNG (along with feature film success).
For whatever reason, creative or financial, we've had two distinct creative people (JJ Abrams, Bryan Fuller) choose the TOS era for their Trek creative endeavors. Make of that whatever you will.
I wanted to see a new series continuing on. It's not to say that a prequel show can't be "good", i'm sure it can be.
But inherently there is less scope for new parts of space etc and it's not a "continuation" of the story, but just thickening up what we already have.
The jury is out on discovery until it starts airing, but i'm not that hopeful or excited about it, it will be a pleasant surprise if it's above average.
And i've been excited for every new piece of trek up until Beyond.
But inherently there is less scope for new parts of space etc and it's not a "continuation" of the story, but just thickening up what we already have.
The jury is out on discovery until it starts airing, but i'm not that hopeful or excited about it, it will be a pleasant surprise if it's above average.
And i've been excited for every new piece of trek up until Beyond.
You know I like your loyalty.. it is nice to see. That is what makes things succeed..
Just to add though.. post Voyager would have worked too..
