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Voyager: Architects of Infinity by Kirsten Beyer delayed?

Really? I thought that was meant to be a noodle incident which never gets covered in detail. And it's been a while since I've read Voyager, but I don't recall this.

If I remember right, it was a conversation she had with Kim where she was talking about how hard it hit her, how it was the source of some of her emotional strife; that they were able to save Troyius but were forced to watch Elaan be razed in the process, powerless to do anything to save the other planet. (It was something to do with taking Troyius out of phase and making it undetectable I think?)
 
Wasn't she the one where they had to decide between saving the planet and saving a convoy full of children? They decided to save the planet but the children were lost.
 
Wasn't she the one where they had to decide between saving the planet and saving a convoy full of children? They decided to save the planet but the children were lost.

Oh, yeah, that might've been it instead; that does sound familiar.

Edit: I found it. It was in Eternal Tide, Chapter 27:

“On our way to Troyius, da Vinci came across a convoy of Elasian ships. Might have been every single ship they had that was warp capable. They were fleeing the Borg, who were supposed to be hours away. We were still working the bugs out of a phase-shifting matrix we thought we could use to hide both of the inhabited planets in the system. Troyius was to be our first effort.”Her eyes began to glisten as she continued, “But the Borg showed up a little early. We were in range of Troyius, although we could have come to the aid of the Elasian convoy. We couldn’t, however, save both. So we chose the planet. The matrix worked. We made Troyius seem to disappear, and the Borg moved on. But they made short work of the convoy on their way out of the system. It was only after the fact, as we were going over our scans, that we realized that the Elasians had packed as many children on those vessels as they could hold. The Elasians sent their future out on those ships, hoping against hope it would survive. Eight hundred thousand children gone in the blink of an eye. Those children were helpless, defenseless. We could have saved them. And we didn’t.”
 
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I wonder if they'll ever conclude the the project full circle plotlie and after that where will they take the Voyager characters?

Ideas?
 
The original mission plan for Project Full Circle was a three year voyage, and the last book marked just the beginning of the second year. Given the length of time it took to cover that first year, from Unworthy to Atonement, with like five or six books, I think it's safe to assume that while there might be a few idle thoughts about what will come next, the Full Circle mission is a long way off from its conclusion, in terms of the advancement of Voyager's story. It's gonna be a while before that becomes an issue to tackle.
 
For those of us who DO read eBooks, why should we have to lose a month just so those of you who do not read eBooks can have something printed that's already released that you can already buy and read? That is not fair and I am glad it's not happening.
 
You wouldn't be LOSING a month - if they fill the gap with a reprint, based on the precedent of the pulled Kelvinverse novels, it's because a book was pulled from the schedule without anything else ready to take that abruptly open slot. If it comes down to no profits for a month because they're not publishing a book or making some profit off of taking something already written and ready for publishing, that's what's likely to happen. Pocket is a business, and they care about what they can make, and if they can make money off of reprinting ebooks in paper format, they'll do so.

In this scenario, it would most likely be a reprint or nothing - from your perspective, you're going to 'lose' a month either way, but this way, others who don't use ebooks end up gaining something in that month.
 
For those of us who DO read eBooks, why should we have to lose a month just so those of you who do not read eBooks can have something printed that's already released that you can already buy and read? That is not fair and I am glad it's not happening.
Well I do try to read them, but somehow it takes forever for me.
I still have not finished Miasma, and I started it when it came out, and since then I have already read more than 10 printed books.
That said I understand people who don't have this problem and don't want to waste slots for reissues. I don't either in fact.
Sorry to have brought this subject.
 
A Reader with an eInk screen such as a Kobo or Kindle would make it very easy to read eBooks. An eInk screen is as easy on the eyes as a paper book. In some cases even more so as you can adjust the font size and using the built-in light you can adjust the contrast. With eInk there is no light coming at you like you get with an LCD screen such as a cellphone or computer screen.
 
Paper books still sell better (generally speaking), so it makes sense that material originally offered as "digital first" would eventually be reprinted. The how, why, when, etc. is subject to any number of factors, of course, but having this sort of thing in your pocket (no pun intended) is a nice contingency for situations like unexpected gaps in schedules.

(Assuming something like that happens here. It's only occurred on very rare occasions with special circumstances, after all.)
 
Aside from the lighting, there's another big advantage of eReaders to dead-tree books: No awkward holding the book open and fumbling with physical bookmarks. Especially thick books - urgh.
:ouch:
That said, the smell of books is nice. Maybe they tackle that with the next Kindle.
 
The original mission plan for Project Full Circle was a three year voyage, and the last book marked just the beginning of the second year. Given the length of time it took to cover that first year, from Unworthy to Atonement, with like five or six books, I think it's safe to assume that while there might be a few idle thoughts about what will come next, the Full Circle mission is a long way off from its conclusion, in terms of the advancement of Voyager's story. It's gonna be a while before that becomes an issue to tackle.
In TNG - The Light Fantastic, Voyager is (still) present in the Delta Quadrant in November 2385 under unspecified circumstances.
 
Aside from the lighting, there's another big advantage of eReaders to dead-tree books: No awkward holding the book open and fumbling with physical bookmarks. Especially thick books - urgh.
:ouch:
That said, the smell of books is nice. Maybe they tackle that with the next Kindle.

The smell of books can be toxic. Another advantage of eBooks is you can take many of them with you and not have to worry about not having enough books with you. Plus, they take up a fixed space and a fixed weight. Right now, I have 5 Star Trek eBooks on my Kobo Aura H2O and they take up no more space or weight than the device. I can easily read using one hand to hold the device and turn the pages. I can read while I eat if I want as I don;t have to hold the H2O. I can lay it on the table and just tap the screen to change page. It is so much easier then a pBook (paper book). I can read in bed when my wife is trying to sleep. The front light does not bother her. The reading light or the light from the lamp would bother her. So I would not be able to read a pBook while she was trying to sleep.

Oh and one other very important thing. If you go to the bookstore to try to find a Star Trek novel and it's not there, you CAN buy it as an eBook because it's not out of stock or out of print.

What advantage do the pBooks have for those of you who dislike eBooks like pBooks so much?
 
Paper books still sell better (generally speaking), so it makes sense that material originally offered as "digital first" would eventually be reprinted. The how, why, when, etc. is subject to any number of factors, of course, but having this sort of thing in your pocket (no pun intended) is a nice contingency for situations like unexpected gaps in schedules.

(Assuming something like that happens here. It's only occurred on very rare occasions with special circumstances, after all.)

But as we've seen, a pBook version of an eBook only release does take up a slot that could be used for a new book. So no thanks to the idea of printing eBook only releases. Just buck up, buy the eBook and enjoy the story.
 
What advantage do the pBooks have for those of you who dislike eBooks like pBooks so much?
Personally this:
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For me it is just a thing of preference. I grew up with dead tree books, I'm used to them, I like holding them and slowly dying from their toxic smell. On a purely objective point of view you're probably right. Interestingly I prefer eComics over dead tree comics, which I guess is also because I very early started to mostly buy eComics due to price, space and availability, so I got used to tapping on the screen and zooming. Also I find single Marvel issues terribly overpriced so I currently only read older stuff on Marvel Unlimited and DC Rebirth.
 
It's silly to paint paper books and eBooks as some kind of warring factions. Anything that people can read is good. Different people like to read different ways, so having more different ways that people can read things is wonderful. If other people like to read a different format of books than we do, we should praise them for that, because yay, they're reading.
 
The smell of books can be toxic

Citation severely needed, considering the classic "old book smell" is from the breakdown of lignin in wood pulp-based paper producing vanilla- and grass-like esters. If the smell of old books was toxic, then the smell of literally anything old with lignin in it, which means essentially anything made out of wood or wicker that's more than a couple decades old, would also be toxic. Are you saying we should destroy most any old furniture because smelling it might kill you?

I know you loathe literally everything involved with physical books, JWolf, but don't throw something like this out there without putting in a link to something reliable backing it up, because that is a really extreme claim that I've literally never even seen anyone make before.
 
But as we've seen, a pBook version of an eBook only release does take up a slot that could be used for a new book. So no thanks to the idea of printing eBook only releases. Just buck up, buy the eBook and enjoy the story.

That scenario happens only rarely, as in "not in the last six years," and when it did, it was a fallback plan when things on the schedule went sideways.

Relax. Breathe regular.
 
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