The Voyager Seven Probe returns in the First Movie and eventually uploads to its Creator the Vast store of Data from its experiences and encounters. WHat would have been in the Upload? WHere did it come back from (Delta Quadrant, Gamma Quadrant, Beta Quadrant)? Who did it encounter out there?
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Spock: "Knowledge that spans this universe."
Kirk: "It must have emerged on the far side of the galaxy."
Spock: "A planet populated by living machines."
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OK Voyager 6...My brother just confirmed that I dont pay enough attention during the ST: Films.
Doesn't make a hell of a lot of sense.
Because when the Borg find something, they either add its biological and technological distinctiveness to their own, or they ignore it because it's primitive, non-threatening space garbage. They don't take an old beat-up space probe, build a giant ship around it, and send it back home. Certainly not to study everything it comes across.
The Borg did not develop an interest in Earth until after they encountered Picard's Enterprise in "Q Who?," an event which was at least a century or two off in the future at the time Vejur began its trip home. And they certainly didn't develop an "obsession" until they'd had their asses kicked.
Then there's the whole issue of the people Vejur encounters. If Vejur was actually a Borg ship, wouldn't they have been assimilated? But Vejur doesn't need a crew, and the biological "carbon units" are viewed as an infestation. Vejur has no interest in them, compared with the Borg who want to "add your biological and technological distinctiveness to [their] own."
People who want to connect Vejur with the Borg would certainly agree with your interpretation, but in reality it doesn't match up at all with how the Borg actually behave on-screen.
Then there's the whole issue of the people Vejur encounters. If Vejur was actually a Borg ship, wouldn't they have been assimilated? But Vejur doesn't need a crew, and the biological "carbon units" are viewed as an infestation. Vejur has no interest in them, compared with the Borg who want to "add your biological and technological distinctiveness to [their] own."
People who want to connect Vejur with the Borg would certainly agree with your interpretation, but in reality it doesn't match up at all with how the Borg actually behave on-screen.
That vague and contrived gibberish could "match" with a plate of Coco-Pops.
The idea that V'Ger bumped into the Borg was coined by Gene Roddenberry at a convention, in an idea that had roughly 35 seconds consideration and thought put into it, at a time when his brain was slowly transforming into jam.
It's crap.
The idea did gain a bit of traction when it resurfaced in the Shatner/Reeves-Stevens novel The Return. But it's still crap.
Yes,V,GER was transformed in to a massive machine, BUT whose to say there is only one biomachined race in the GALAXY? why could it not have been the BINAR? they seem more likely to MESS with V,ger then the borg.
^ Agreed, if V,GER was BORGAFIDE then it would have been a borg cube not a giant DUST CLOUD!
And As far as I am concerned, unless it's on screen ( & not animated) it AIN'T part of CONTINUITY
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I forgot to mention, that part about V,GER emerging from the far end of the galaxy? whose to say V,GER didnt have a EVENT HORIZON like trip to another DIMENSION? one that had A planet populated by living machines? I'm just saying it had to have SOME way of getting that far out in to the galaxy without Warp drive and THEN come back.
I think a starship should pay a little visit to the Planet of the Living Machines.
I think a starship should pay a little visit to the Planet of the Living Machines.
See William Shatner's "The Return" and "Avenger".
Oh HELL NOT the Shatner "ME" Novel!
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He at first couldn't get over Kirk being killed and wrote those novels, but in faireness to Shatner's writing ability. They were NOT too bad.
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