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VOY getting a remaster to HD possibility within 5 years?

from the TNG-R discussion thread:

He also stated that the purpose CBS Television, CBS Home Entertainment and Paramount are paying for this is to future-proof the show, so I would call it safe to assume that the other series will most likely get the treatment as well, but again it depends on the sales of these sets.
This sounds favorable for VOY.
If they continue on the remastering route I would think at the very least a Fathom Events cinema screening for DS9 2 episodes and also VOY 2 episodes.
 
Here's the exact quote from the article I was referring to. I was being somewhat optimistic, but I still believe the chances are good that we'll see DS9 and Voyager.

http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/4...ray_producer_robert_meyer_burnett/index1.html

TT: Just to bring the interview to a close, the release schedule means that the entire run of the series won't be completed and available to the market until roughly 2015. Is it likely that CBS will look to other Star Trek properties such as Deep Space Nine and Voyager at this point?

Y'know that's the big question, and I think the overall sales of this will determine that. The problem is that in addition to just the restoration, those shows never had the ratings that Star Trek: The Next Generation had. My favourite modern Star Trek was Deep Space Nine, and as they got into later seasons, they relied heavily on CGI to create their visual effects and there's a lot more visual effects in those episodes of Deep Space Nine and Voyager than there were in the Original Series, and it's hugely cost prohibitive. I mean the Dominion War, all of those visual effects, the ones where they don't have models or film elements for, are going to have to be recreated digitally and that is a massively daunting task, and that could affect the desire or even the economic feasibility of making the shows, to do the same thing that they've done to The Next Generation, but it's my hope they will. I want Deep Space Nine. I really want Deep Space Nine in HD because I dearly love that show and I think it really holds up and I love those characters and I really hope that it does happen. But as of now, I think it's too early to say.


TT: So the message is that if fans want to see Deep Space Nine in 1080p they should jettison their Next Generation DVD's and upgrade to Blu-ray?


Absolutely. And if you're a fan of Star Trek, you're forward thinking in that way anyway, you're gonna want to see it. And I just think that all the hard work that went into that series, it's never been seen this way before and even the aesthetics, like when you watch a first season episode that people laugh at like Justice; Justice is a really weird episode. When I watched it, I actually watched it twice in HD, and I'm like there's some really interesting stuff, there's that great space station and they live in a different dimension, and what are they doing and they never show up again and then there's a great moment in that episode where Data and Picard have a great discussion about the prime directive and I was like "˜y'know this is a great scene and while this episode is kind of absurd, I kind of enjoyed watching it, the colors are very inviting and so even when The Next Generation is clearly not at its best, there's clearly something valuable about watching these episodes on high definition. It makes even what I think is the worst episode maybe of the series, besides Night Terrors, is Home Soil that's on the first season, that episode is unbearable to me, but I watched it because of the way it looks in high def, and I actually enjoyed watching it. And I would never watch that on DVD, but I'll watch it on Blu-ray!
 
The first round of sales data for the TNG blu rays has been posted in the Season 1 thread on the TNG board. To put it mildly, those sets are doing exceedingly well. In less than a week they made almost 6 million USD in sales. They achieved this in the face of a serious issue with the audio quality, which promted a disc replacement program and a suspension of sales. One also needs to keep in mind that the first season of TNG is one of the least popular of the franchise.

The first season of TNG cost 9 million USD to remaster.

This means they will break even after just a few weeks of sales. If these numbers hold up DS9 is almost certainly guaranteed. So Voyager's chances are looking pretty good to me right now.
 
This means they will break even after just a few weeks of sales. If these numbers hold up DS9 is almost certainly guaranteed. So Voyager's chances are looking pretty good to me right now.

The TNG news is great, but ultimately it's likely to have little effect on whether or not VOY gets a remaster. There's not much difference in terms of popularity between VOY and DS9 (certainly when compared to the popularity of TOS and TNG) - given this, it's far more likely that they'll wait and see how DS9 does on HD and then decide whether or not to do VOY.
 
Voyager and DS9 will get an HD makeover mark my words. Here's the thing Paramount and CBS didn't decide to HD TNG because fans were pounding at the door (sure the money the could get from Bluray sales was obviously a factor), they're doing it to future proof the shows. HD is the industry standard now and more and more people are converting to HD televisions. The Star Trek shows will continue to be rerun for years if not decades to come.
 
The TNG news is great, but ultimately it's likely to have little effect on whether or not VOY gets a remaster. There's not much difference in terms of popularity between VOY and DS9 (certainly when compared to the popularity of TOS and TNG) - given this, it's far more likely that they'll wait and see how DS9 does on HD and then decide whether or not to do VOY.

But that's not the point. The point is, if TNG's lack luster first season can do this staggeringly well. Then DS9 has a good chance to do fairly well also. Et voila, Voyager HD will become a reality following the probable success of DS9 Remastered. :techman:
 
But that's not the point. The point is, if TNG's lack luster first season can do this staggeringly well. Then DS9 has a good chance to do fairly well also. Et voila, Voyager HD will become a reality following the probable success of DS9 Remastered. :techman:

Well I certainly hope you're right! :techman:
 
I'd rather DS9 or VOY than TNG any day. But I'm not holding breath for anytime soon.
 
I remember hearing that before they shot Enterprise season 1 they put an HD camera on the set of VOY in season 7 for a side-by-side comparison.
I think i was on a special feature of ENT dvd season 1.
I'd like to see that footage in HD.

Well it looks like the footage is probably around as the ENT tests were just located:

you know that in Season Four, they changed over from 35MM to high-def? I found Marvin Rush’s camera tests – all the HD camera tests he did, before they decided to go with high-def. Hopefully we can do something with that down the road for year four. I mention that so you know we’re finding stuff every day.
The ENT producers were actually considering in 2001 to shoot the entire ENT series in digital HD at the time. The cameras available were very minimal and George Lucas had just shot Star Wars Ep.2 AOTC on the Sony F-900 camera in 2000 and with re-shoots in 2001.
Only 1 other TV show was shot being Titus (2000) was shot around then in on HD cameras and it was a multi-camera in-studio sit-com. Producers knew things were moving that way for VFX and it was much cheaper.

TrekCore: How does this stuff exist? I know that the reels of film for The Next Generation were kept in this big salt mine – how is the stuff that Angelo is finding existing? Where is it?
Roger Lay, Jr.: A lot of it was in the same underground storage facility as the episode negs. It’s all in these boxes, and each box has, sometimes film elements; sometimes tape elements, a lot of this stuff is on tape, obviously. The great thing about it is that every box has an inventory list. Everything was catalogued really nicely on Star Trek.
from this week's Trekcore 3-part article about ENT blu-ray seasons special features that interviewed Roger Lay, Jr. the guy who is producing the bonus features (VAM "value-added-material") on both TNG and ENT's new Blu-Ray releases.

It would be so cool to see a live-action scene shot in 2001 from season 7 of VOY in HD shot with a Sony F-900 HD camera with the production audio and then played again with audio synced up from the final sound mix.
It would be the only thing from VOY shot on digital HD in-camera.
 
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If the key consideration for remastering everything in HD is the ability to get together syndication packages for broadcast on HD television networks, then I'd say chances are pretty good Voyager will get the upgrade at some stage. Whether or not they bother spending the amount of time, effort and money on it that they have on TNG-R, or whether they end up cutting corners and upscaling bits and pieces of footage instead of doing a full remaster, is another thing.
 
TOS, TNG got remaster to HD and work started in 2006 for TOS. Now 4k remastering for TV is real. For a catalog item in a franchise will VOY get a HD or 4k remaster keeping the original aspect ratio of 4x3 ?


How to create 4K content for new Ultra HD TVs was addressed Tuesday at the Hollywood Post Alliance Tech Retreat.

Sony Pictures Television plans to shoot between three and five pilots in 4K this season.
“My guess is we’ll be doing half a dozen shows in 4K if they are picked up,” SPT senior vp technical operations Phil Squyres said Tuesday at the Hollywood Post Alliance Tech Retreat at the Hyatt Regency Indian Wells. He reported that directors of photography on the programs -- a mix of half-hour comedies and one-hour dramas -- had either selected or were exploring the use of various 4K cameras, including Sony’s F65 and new F55.

SPT series that have already used 4K photography are the canceled CBS drama Made in Jersey, which was shot with the F65, and FX’s drama Justified, which is shot with the Red Epic camera.
The F65 is also used on the half-hour comedy Save Me for NBC and one-hour drama Masters of Sex for Showtime, as well as Michael J. Fox’s half-hour comedy pilot for NBC. All three are also posted in 4K at Sony Pictures’ post facility Colorworks, which is based on its Culver City lot.


To grow its 4K library, Sony has additionally started to remaster Breaking Bad, a film-based series, in the higher-resolution format. Plans are for additional titles to follow.
Squyres noted that a reason to consider 4K post for new projects is that “remastering costs twice as much, because you are doing the work twice.”
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/sony-pictures-television-will-shoot-422464

Bill Baggelaar is the senior vice president of technology at Colorworks.

“Production should shoot and finish in 4K… to have an asset they can store that has long-term viability,” he said. “Even if you’re not going to produce in 4K today, you can shoot in 4K and produce in 4K down the road.”

Baggelaar said 4K was a consideration from the outset when Colorworks started finishing TV shows because the 4K workflow was in place for doing theatricals. However, the primary deliverable for TV is HD, he said.

“We didn’t want to jeopardize the HD product by producing in 4K,” he said. “We’re able to look at HD, produce in HD, but we’re looking at 4K in the background.”
http://www.tvtechnology.com/article/hpa--the-case-for-ktv-production/217847

also
Plus: "Justified" seasons 3 and 4 RED Epic 4K, DP Francis Kenney, delivered to F/X in 4K. "Justified" is a candidate for 4K remastering in future. "Breaking Bad" shot 35mm 3-perf, remastering in 4K at ColorWorks (season 2 in process).
http://provideocoalition.com/awilt/...-1-super-sized-session-more-bigger-but-better

They are remastering shows that were already mastered in 4k and have good archival re-playability. All Trek TV series are as well. Since work has not started on DS9 or VOY yet perhaps they will just do HD but 4k is a possibility for remastering within 4 years.
 
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TOS, TNG got remaster to HD and work started in 2006 for TOS. Now 4k remastering for TV is real. For a catalog item in a franchise will VOY get a HD or 4k remaster keeping the original aspect ratio of 4x3 ?


How to create 4K content for new Ultra HD TVs was addressed Tuesday at the Hollywood Post Alliance Tech Retreat.

Sony Pictures Television plans to shoot between three and five pilots in 4K this season.
“My guess is we’ll be doing half a dozen shows in 4K if they are picked up,” SPT senior vp technical operations Phil Squyres said Tuesday at the Hollywood Post Alliance Tech Retreat at the Hyatt Regency Indian Wells. He reported that directors of photography on the programs -- a mix of half-hour comedies and one-hour dramas -- had either selected or were exploring the use of various 4K cameras, including Sony’s F65 and new F55.

SPT series that have already used 4K photography are the canceled CBS drama Made in Jersey, which was shot with the F65, and FX’s drama Justified, which is shot with the Red Epic camera.
The F65 is also used on the half-hour comedy Save Me for NBC and one-hour drama Masters of Sex for Showtime, as well as Michael J. Fox’s half-hour comedy pilot for NBC. All three are also posted in 4K at Sony Pictures’ post facility Colorworks, which is based on its Culver City lot.


To grow its 4K library, Sony has additionally started to remaster Breaking Bad, a film-based series, in the higher-resolution format. Plans are for additional titles to follow.
Squyres noted that a reason to consider 4K post for new projects is that “remastering costs twice as much, because you are doing the work twice.”
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/sony-pictures-television-will-shoot-422464

http://www.tvtechnology.com/article/hpa--the-case-for-ktv-production/217847

also
Plus: "Justified" seasons 3 and 4 RED Epic 4K, DP Francis Kenney, delivered to F/X in 4K. "Justified" is a candidate for 4K remastering in future. "Breaking Bad" shot 35mm 3-perf, remastering in 4K at ColorWorks (season 2 in process).
http://provideocoalition.com/awilt/...-1-super-sized-session-more-bigger-but-better

They are remastering shows that were already mastered in 4k and have good archival re-playability. All Trek TV series are as well. Since work has not started on DS9 or VOY yet perhaps they will just do HD but 4k is a possibility for remastering within 4 years.

STNG and ENT are being "remastered" in 2K.
 
I only foresee STNG and Enterprise being released on Bluray.

RAMA


I was right about this...to a point. However, it appears there is discussion about DS9 now. That won't happen until till close to 2016-17. Voyager is a long way off.
 
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