Spoilers VOY DOC: To The Journey | Rating and Review

[Tosk]

So what exactly is this thing that pops up briefly in the doc?

It's obviously not the actual Voyager. And it's too modern an image to be a design shot from back in the day.

 

[tomalak301]

What you saw wasn't from the show. That was (re)created by someone.

Ok, but in the documentary it still looked weird and kind of blurry.

 

[Amasov]

Thanks, I'll check it out.

Edit: Okay, he's talking about the telecine machines themselves. Apparently CBS closed the entire department. ...Which presumably means that if CBS ever want to transfer old footage from film again they'd have to pay someone else to do it/use their equipment?

I wonder when it happened. Should the fundraiser have ever "promised" this in the first place or was it never an option?

I guess we should all abandon any lingering filaments of hope that we'll ever get DS9 or VOY eps in HD at this point.

Yeah. If CBS wanted to realistically look at remastering them, assuming what David said is accurate, they'd have to look for a place to do it, which I assume would be much more expensive than doing it in-house themselves.

 

[thribs]

Never understood why they don’t remaster them. Surely it would be cheaper than making a new show.

 

[Picard452]

According to a recent interview David did on a podcast, it turns out that CBS got rid of their telecines; which is what they use to convert film to digital. So they weren't able to convert the shots they wanted to use to high definition. Once again, another example of their failure to be transparent with backers ESPECIALLY since this was a stretch goal of theirs'. Even though David thinks AI did a pretty good job, I think it looks even worse than the DVDs do.

Thanks, I'll check it out.

Edit: Okay, he's talking about the telecine machines themselves. Apparently CBS closed the entire department. ...Which presumably means that if CBS ever want to transfer old footage from film again they'd have to pay someone else to do it/use their equipment?

I wonder when it happened. Should the fundraiser have ever "promised" this in the first place or was it never an option?

I guess we should all abandon any lingering filaments of hope that we'll ever get DS9 or VOY eps in HD at this point.

I joined to relay this news. Truly disheartening that not only would they close that department but scrap the film scanners as well. One does have to question if CBS will even bother to continue with the film storage vault or are the reels destined for the dumpster?

 

[David cgc]

So what exactly is this thing that pops up briefly in the doc?

It's obviously not the actual Voyager. And it's too modern an image to be a design shot from back in the day.

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Looks like Fabio Passaro’s CG recreation of the Voyager concept study model he did for Eaglemoss. https://www.meshweaver.com/eaglemoss--trek-little-ships-4.html

 

[Tosk]

Looks like Fabio Passaro’s CG recreation of the Voyager concept study model he did for Eaglemoss. https://www.meshweaver.com/eaglemoss--trek-little-ships-4.html

I knew someone would recognize it. Thanks!

Now the question is...why the heck is a shot of it (semi) randomly in the VOY doc?

 

[Amasov]

What’s the thing people always used to sarcastically quote from him? “We are all very pleased.”

Yup. You can pretty much go back to any printed interview he's given from back then and he always says it.

 

[Planet of the Daves]

I remember a while back the filmmakers said there would be a "big surprise." Does anyone else remember hearing that? What exactly was it? If it spoils the doc, feel free to DM me.
Thanks

 

[Picard452]

Nothing really stood out to me as an "exclusive never before seen voyager surprise", but perhaps one of the CGI sequences that used something planned but never used in the show was the "big surprise".

Either that or since it really feels like CBS wasn't playing ball at all with them, it like seemingly so much else, didn't happen.

 

[Tosk]

Maybe they'll say what the surprise was eventually. But it'll be at minute 57 of some hour-long podcast.

 

[Picard452]

Speaking of podcasts, I hope they put out an actual statement about the reason they couldn't remaster any of the footage. If they just rely on this clip from The Transporter Room, people will keep wondering "where did all that money go for the remastered footage?". Though I am wondering where it all went since it obviously wasn't spent on that....

 

[Tosk]

If it got spent on Garrett's gravity jaunt I'll be mildly annoyed.

 

[DonIago]

If it got spent on Garrett's gravity jaunt I'll be mildly annoyed.

Garrett seems like a cool guy and all, but for me that was the biggest waste of space on the documentary. Should have been a bonus feature or such for the people who cared that much.

 

[Tosk]

Should have been a bonus feature or such

At most!

 

[Firebird]

I remember a while back the filmmakers said there would be a "big surprise." Does anyone else remember hearing that? What exactly was it? If it spoils the doc, feel free to DM me.
Thanks

The "big surprise" is that it was released to backers at all.

 

[Picard452]

Thinking about where the allocated funds went if not to the apparent impossible task of remastering... I remembered what David Zappone said on the VOY Doc Facebook group:

 

[Bad Thoughts]

Thinking about where the allocated funds went if not to the apparent impossible task of remastering... I remembered what David Zappone said on the VOY Doc Facebook group:

It sounds like CBS took a different approach with TTJ than WYLB, and the cost of obtaining footage was higher regardless of what Zappone and company decided to with it. I don't think there was/is an extra pile of cash, but funds that had to be stretched further to do less. Indeed, the Paramount lot has become something of a desert in the last two years as production continues to move elsewhere: there are fewer people on hand to help the documentary be made.(Not to mention Paramount doesn't need the documentary to keep Star Trek in the public eye anymore.)

 

[Tosk]

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