Violent Protests in Baltimore
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The riots were not enough for you? Rioters tried to light a pizza restaurant owner on fire who was defending his property. I would say all that activity we saw in Baltimore was pretty "up in arms."
The last I heard, six police officers were charged with 2nd degree murder. DId this stop the rioting and looting? I don't know. I turned everything off a day or so ago.
If charging the officers did stop the riots, what then?
If the officers are not found guilty and sent to prison, will the riots start again?
Will the truth come out about how the man's injuries happened? Will the truth be told about whether the mayor told the police to stand down and let the rioters run rampant?
In my opinion, the race thing is being played up in the media and most definitely by politicians.
It's come to politicians declaring that too many black people are incarcerated in proportion to whites.
But I have to wonder why that is?
Do statistics show that whites, Hispanics, blacks, Asians, Native Americans, etc. who are arrested for similar crimes are not given similar sentences? Are the numbers proportional?
I don't know, so I'm asking the question.
Is it racist to ask?
If charging the officers did stop the riots, what then?
If the officers are not found guilty and sent to prison, will the riots start again?
Will the truth come out about how the man's injuries happened? Will the truth be told about whether the mayor told the police to stand down and let the rioters run rampant?
In my opinion, the race thing is being played up in the media and most definitely by politicians.
It's come to politicians declaring that too many black people are incarcerated in proportion to whites.
But I have to wonder why that is?
Do statistics show that whites, Hispanics, blacks, Asians, Native Americans, etc. who are arrested for similar crimes are not given similar sentences? Are the numbers proportional?
I don't know, so I'm asking the question.
Is it racist to ask?
I think he's talking about people who are not directly affected by it.
Lots of white people were willing to defend trespasser, deadbeat moocher, and racist Cliven Bundy and the people who illegally took up arms against the government in his defense, but suddenly when black people who are actually being victimized by systemic abuse of power by police do something, those same people condemn them. Watch Fox News coverage of Cliven Bundy vs. the Baltimore protests. I wonder what the difference between the two is?
It's funny you didn't notice since the last time there was any violent unrest of note was the 28th. You know, Tuesday. That's considerable more than "a day or so ago."
??? What does this question mean? Did you forget a "not"?
Maybe?
It's already coming out, albeit a little at a time.
Considering this has appeared mostly in right-wing media from anonymous sources I'm gonna guess this didn't happen.
In my opinion, "the race thing" is central to the issues involved.
It's true.
Nope. They are arrested more often, charged more often, convicted more often, and given longer sentences. It's a pretty well-documented phenomenon.
No.
This is an almost expert display of passive aggressive, niggling finger pointing, with an innocent whistle.
Trying not to puke on my shoes here.
Thanks. I thought what I wrote was pretty clear, but maybe it wasn't.
The obvious solution is that the disgruntled rabble should join the police force.
The next ten graduating classes from the police academy should be nothing but a sea of black faces.
The next ten graduating classes from the police academy should be nothing but a sea of black faces.
While it's certainly ideal and helpful for the makeup of the police force to roughly reflect the demographics of the communities they patrol, it's not an instant solution to the problem.
Baltimore's police force is 43% black (though the city itself is 63.7% black, so there's room for improvement). Three of the six officers arrested in the Freddie Gray case were black. The police commissioner, mayor, and state's attorney are black, as are many other state and local officials.
Even black officers can consciously or unconsciously carry out systemic racist policies or adopt racist beliefs. They can themselves, or can be pressured into, taking an "us vs. them" mentality towards the civilian population.
They're also susceptible to committing socioeconomic discrimination and mistreatment against the poorest and most in need in their community.
It certainly is racist to dogwhistle yes.
Locutus, what you said is more of an "other" problem rather than a case of black versus white. In Seattle, it's clearly "us" versus "them." I advocate reminding us all that we are all human and should see each other as such.
Guys, please don't take this the wrong way, but kiss my ass.
I don't do passive aggressive or dogwhistle bullshit. I'm too old for that kind of juvenile game, and i don't have the tme for it. If you don't like my asking questions, too bad.
If that wasn't clear enough for you I'd be more than happy to explain it in a PM.
And once again, police arrest the person who filmed them committing a crime:
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/20...reportedly-arrested-suspicious-circumstances/
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/20...reportedly-arrested-suspicious-circumstances/
No, they did not shut down the broadcast.
They did kick the reporter and camera crew out of an area where they arguably had every right to be, but the broadcast was not interrupted. Bad headline.
Yes, because pedantry about the terminology used in the headline was the important issue to take away from that article, not that police were moving reporters away from filming arrests. Which is pretty disturbing considering the incident that gave rise to these protests in the first place was police allegedly severely injuring a man once they were off-camera. Or the fact that police frequently retaliate against those that film them in commission of a crime, as they did here and in the Eric Garner case in New York.
Why is it that police have to conduct their business in such secrecy, like snatching a protestor off the street and stuffing him in a passing Humvee like kidnappers?
http://gawker.com/watch-baltimore-police-make-a-protester-disappear-1700856531
What makes you think someone got stuffed into that humvee? Looks someone got tackled as the humvee was driving by
Watch the video in the link. Once the Humvee passes, he's gone. If he's not in the Humvee itself, they used it to provide cover while they moved him behind their lines or somewhere else off-camera.
The guy is in central booking now, but it's just a weird tactic to try and handle it off-camera like that. Certainly not something that screams trust and transparency.
The guy is in central booking now, but it's just a weird tactic to try and handle it off-camera like that. Certainly not something that screams trust and transparency.
I watched it, the camera didn't pan back to the area he was arested. And in th e video in the link you can clearly see an officer with a helmet and a shield in the rear driver side seat. More than likely he was taken behind the police line after he was detained. That is the standard tactic for riot control, a line of officers with shields and behind them there are teams of officers who will come forward to make arrests and return behind the line.
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