Villains of Star Trek
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Ru'afo is the weakest Trek villain by a wide, wide margin.
Biggest problem with Ru'afo is that he does basically nothing till the third act, and even then it hardly seems like a big deal. Let's compare what the others do in the first two acts of their movies.
TMP: V'ger destroys Klingon vessels, begins destroying things in Federation space, and kills Illia, then in almost macabre fashion takes her form for the sole purpose of communicating with the crew.
WOK: Khan tortures/brainwashes Chekov and Terrell, maroons the Reliant crew, and cripples the Enterprise (killing several officers in the process).
SFS: Kruge destroys another vessel because it knows too much, destroys the Grissom (inadvertently to be fair), murders Kirk's son, and tries to board the Enterprise.
TVH: Whale Probe appears without warning, depowers ships and begins to tear the Earth apart.
TFF: Sybok (pacifist glorified motivational speaker mind you) half brainwashes several diplomats and effectively hijacks the Enterprise to brave a dangerous space barrier.
TUC: The conspirators (particularly Chang) kill Gorkon, sentence Kirk/McCoy to Rura Penthe, and nearly set off an interstellar war between the Klingon Empire and the Federation.
G: Soran kidnaps Geordi, tortures him for information/fun, gives information to help the Duras sisters in destroying the Enterprise, and uses a missile to cause a sun to go nova killing billions.
FC: The Borg destroy many Starfleet vessels, attack the settlement in Montana (initially assimilating earth) and begin to assimialate crewmen on the ship.
N: Shinzon kills many in the Romulan senate, tricks the crew with B-4, psychically rapes Troi, kidnaps Picard to steal his blood, and attacks the Enterprise.
09: Nero kills the captain of the Kelvin, forces George Kirk to sacrifice his life to save the crew, destroys numerous Starfleet vessels, kidnaps Pike and oh yeah, destroys Vulcan.
Ru'afo... bitches about Picard and company, gets his face tightened, and starts to forcibly move people off the planet which eventually at some point unnamed point in the future will apparently kill them.
See what I mean, there's a real disconnect here. Sybok is the only guy who might surpass him in non-villainous acts, and he's arguably not even a villain, just an antagonist. I mean for god's sake, the whalers from Voyage Home offered more tension in their acts than this guy.
TMP: V'ger destroys Klingon vessels, begins destroying things in Federation space, and kills Illia, then in almost macabre fashion takes her form for the sole purpose of communicating with the crew.
WOK: Khan tortures/brainwashes Chekov and Terrell, maroons the Reliant crew, and cripples the Enterprise (killing several officers in the process).
SFS: Kruge destroys another vessel because it knows too much, destroys the Grissom (inadvertently to be fair), murders Kirk's son, and tries to board the Enterprise.
TVH: Whale Probe appears without warning, depowers ships and begins to tear the Earth apart.
TFF: Sybok (pacifist glorified motivational speaker mind you) half brainwashes several diplomats and effectively hijacks the Enterprise to brave a dangerous space barrier.
TUC: The conspirators (particularly Chang) kill Gorkon, sentence Kirk/McCoy to Rura Penthe, and nearly set off an interstellar war between the Klingon Empire and the Federation.
G: Soran kidnaps Geordi, tortures him for information/fun, gives information to help the Duras sisters in destroying the Enterprise, and uses a missile to cause a sun to go nova killing billions.
FC: The Borg destroy many Starfleet vessels, attack the settlement in Montana (initially assimilating earth) and begin to assimialate crewmen on the ship.
N: Shinzon kills many in the Romulan senate, tricks the crew with B-4, psychically rapes Troi, kidnaps Picard to steal his blood, and attacks the Enterprise.
09: Nero kills the captain of the Kelvin, forces George Kirk to sacrifice his life to save the crew, destroys numerous Starfleet vessels, kidnaps Pike and oh yeah, destroys Vulcan.
Ru'afo... bitches about Picard and company, gets his face tightened, and starts to forcibly move people off the planet which eventually at some point unnamed point in the future will apparently kill them.
See what I mean, there's a real disconnect here. Sybok is the only guy who might surpass him in non-villainous acts, and he's arguably not even a villain, just an antagonist. I mean for god's sake, the whalers from Voyage Home offered more tension in their acts than this guy.
I liked the bit where he had a little tizwoz in Picard's ready room and literally busted a blood vessel.
And the way he killed Admiral Grumpy was pretty cool, too.
And the way he killed Admiral Grumpy was pretty cool, too.
IMHO Ru'afo was a stronger villain than Sybok. YMMV.
I still think Ru'afo had no intention of allowing the Ba'ku to live, following them later to whatever relocation planet they were settled on and taking the remainder of his vengence on them. Originally, as we see in the film, killing them off while still on the planet was no problem for him either.
Ru'afo is the weakest Trek villain by a wide, wide margin.
That laugh icon sure brought a smile to my face. Have to say I never thought of Sybok as a villian in the traditional sense. There were Klingons and there was the Entity.
And slaughters the entire staff at that space station . . . .
And when defeated tries to blow himself up and take the Enterprise and its crew with him.
I always did rather fancy one of the sisters, don't know what her name was...
B'Etor was the one I fancied all right! I just was never good with the names, lol.Thanks Doctor!
they initially seemed to be on friendly enough terms. I don't think Dougherty had cause for suspicion or mistrust.
Yeah, with the exception of the teeth... I quite fancied her myself!
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