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News Variety Reports Robert Pattinson is the new Batman

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As simplistic as this might sound, Batman is not Superman.
Of course not, but I was mainly responding to TREK_GOD_1 upthread, who did invoke Superman '78.

Anyway, Batman and Superman have a lot more in common with each other than either of them has with reality.
 
I'm not sure what else to say to people who think freaking Batman is an actual plausible thing that could really happen, except ... see you in the funny pages?
 
I'm not sure what else to say to people who think freaking Batman is an actual plausible thing that could really happen, except ... see you in the funny pages?
I think elements are and those elements can be grounded, to a certain degree, in reality. Detective work, forensics, martial arts, etc, are all grounded things we can understand.

As I said, of the DC heroes, Batman is the closest to reality and can be grounded to a certain extent. i think that those elements that can be beneficial in story telling.
 
Burton's films were

Superb.

between his own insecurities about not wanting Batman/Wayne to be a "square jawed hero" (his words circa 1989)

He had the right idea.

and using a short, balding comedic actor in the role

Again, good idea. Batman shouldn't be that obvious.

it was horrible and rather silly. Superman the movie premiered 11 years earlier

Saying Superman 78 wasn't silly while it had Hackman's Lex Luthor is one of the wrong-headed things you've said yet.
 
Yes, Neal Adams. Brain Fart. Mid-Seventies Batman was my introduction to the character and at the time there were all kinds of earlier books around. That defined Batman for me more than anything that came afterward. Aparo was my favorite Batman artist.

Aparo and Breyfogle for me!
 
But not "realism." It's a movie about a superstrong flying laser-eyed space alien wearing longjohns and a cape

Superman being an alien is all the reason setting him in real world locations such as Smallville, Metropolis and the Southwest grounded him in reality, instead of looking like the Power Rangers, or Burton's garbage, where the artificiality is smothering and not at all how one should adapt a comic character to live action. Its on of the endless reasons Nolan's Batman films are classics, and the best portrayal of the character on screen: they have a costumed character, yes, but he--and his world are recognized by the audience as being close to their own, making any fantastic elements powerful, instead of a freakshow, or energy blast/explosion-of-the-month, like some comic films.
 
I don't like the suit. Maybe cause my first exposure to it was someone on Twitter getting me excited that it was Daredevil back lol.

I guess we need to see more of it though, but I don't really like Pattinson as an actor nor do I think he looks the role.
 
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I think elements are and those elements can be grounded, to a certain degree, in reality. Detective work, forensics, martial arts, etc, are all grounded things we can understand.

As I said, of the DC heroes, Batman is the closest to reality and can be grounded to a certain extent. i think that those elements that can be beneficial in story telling.

Honestly, I found The Warlord and Kamandi to be more grounded in reality than Batman because they behaved like relatively identifiable human beings even if they were in surroundings that were fantastical. Batman is just to psychologically outside my general frames of reference for me to identify with most of how I've seen him portrayed regardless of how street level his environs are. He rarely seems to come across to me as any more identifiably human than Superman.
 
I think elements are and those elements can be grounded, to a certain degree, in reality. Detective work, forensics, martial arts, etc, are all grounded things we can understand.

As I said, of the DC heroes, Batman is the closest to reality and can be grounded to a certain extent. i think that those elements that can be beneficial in story telling.
Batman is one of the few major superheroes who could easily exist in the real world, as long as you had the right kind of money, motivation and training.
Superman being an alien is all the reason setting him in real world locations such as Smallville, Metropolis and the Southwest grounded him in reality, instead of looking like the Power Rangers, or Burton's garbage, where the artificiality is smothering and not at all how one should adapt a comic character to live action. Its on of the endless reasons Nolan's Batman films are classics, and the best portrayal of the character on screen: they have a costumed character, yes, but he--and his world are recognized by the audience as being close to their own, making any fantastic elements powerful, instead of a freakshow, or energy blast/explosion-of-the-month, like some comic films.
I'm the complete opposite here, all superhero comics, even more grounded ones like Batman, take place in a heightened version of reality, and I'd rather see the adaptions embrace that.
Having said that the Nolan movies are some of my favorite movies of all time, but they're more of an exception to the rule.
 
Batman is one of the few major superheroes who could easily exist in the real world, as long as you had the right kind of money, motivation and training.

No matter how much money and training you throw at it - if you go out every night unarmed to fight gang-bangers, you will be dead pretty quickly.

I can completely accept that Batman works within his fictional universe? within our Universe? no.
 
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