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News Variety Reports Robert Pattinson is the new Batman

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After the fact is for final judgements. There's nothing wrong with people having or discussing early and intermediate opinions. It's just a message board.

And, as mentioned above, this particular board has been fairly light on the kneejerk "Pattinson sucks" reactions springing up elsewhere. It's those other reactions I'm talking about. Opinions are fine, sure, as long as one is open to revising them. But as I said, too many people mistake the first thought that pops into their head for the absolute, final truth, and therefore close their minds to further evidence.
 
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Yeah, there's a ton of anti-60s Batman bashing because it's too campy or not serious enough or even not morbid enough. I've seen enough of 60s, 80s, 90s, 00s Batman examples and can tell even the ones with styles I don't exactly care for are decently written and acted and culminate a new fan base, which is fantastic for the new fanbase being made. And it takes a light at the right place and time to get something to gel to even create a fanbase (that lasts), so the fact this comic strip character has survived in many styles and formats and all without altering, changing, or utterly rewriting his origin or motivations (avenging the death of his parents, et al). That's impressive in its own right.

Or if the scripts are insulting or demeaning to the audience, is it unfair to point those moments as perceived out?
 
MICHAEL KEATON WAS NOT CONSIDERED A BAD ACTOR. HE WAS A POPULAR COMEDIC ACTOR, WHO PEOPLE DIDN'T THINK COULD DO MORE SERIOUS ROLES.

I mean for fucks sake, everyone who uses Keaton as a counterpoint is beyond pathetic. Michael Keaton did many popular movies and people liked him, there was just doubt as to whether he could do serious roles. Robert Pattinson is an absolute shit actor who has never done anything good.

Also, the fucking sorce material isn't responsible for Pattinson's robotic acting. I don't think the Twilight script ever said "Edward stares blankly in every situation, and never, ever emotes". That is all on Pattinson, who is more fucking robotic then an actual robot would be.



Well, since I'm right about 90% of the time, I'm feeling pretty confident.

Also, he is always shit. He is just a terrible actor. Also, his last actually financially successful movie seems to be the last twilight movie, with all his other ones seeming to make well below their box office (at least among the ones that have their budget reported). So, he's a shit actor that makes exclusively shit movies, he just does different types of shit movies nowadays.



Clooney was a decent Batman. With a good script he would have been fine. Same with Affleck. Neither were the best choices, but with a good script they would have done at least acceptably inb the role.



Wow, a bunch of shitty arthouse films. Surely, that qualifies him for the role. Might as well hire David Lynch or Cronenberg to direct the fucking movie while they're at it. At least then it might be an entertaining trainwreck. actually, ignore that last bit. The last time we got a mainstream superhero movie made by an arthouse director, the world was punished with Ang Lee's Hulk.

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Clooney was a decent Batman. With a good script he would have been fine. Same with Affleck. Neither were the best choices, but with a good script they would have done at least acceptably inb the role.
Agree to disagree. Clooney is just Clooney playing Batman. There feels like little sincerity or even interest in his performance.

Affleck is just meh-entirely forgettable.

I'm willing to give Pattinson a shot. And if the movie is shit oh well. They'll make another one and Batman is not ruined.
 
Clooney was a decent Batman

Clooney took a massive crap on the Batman character by playing him as an offensively flaming homosexual, so if that's your idea of "decent", you need to take a serious look at your own opinions and rethink some things.
 
I mean for fucks sake, everyone who uses Keaton as a counterpoint is beyond pathetic. Michael Keaton did many popular movies and people liked him, there was just doubt as to whether he could do serious roles. Robert Pattinson is an absolute shit actor who has never done anything good.

Also, the fucking sorce material isn't responsible for Pattinson's robotic acting. I don't think the Twilight script ever said "Edward stares blankly in every situation, and never, ever emotes". That is all on Pattinson, who is more fucking robotic then an actual robot would be.



Well, since I'm right about 90% of the time, I'm feeling pretty confident.

Also, he is always shit. He is just a terrible actor. Also, his last actually financially successful movie seems to be the last twilight movie, with all his other ones seeming to make well below their box office (at least among the ones that have their budget reported). So, he's a shit actor that makes exclusively shit movies, he just does different types of shit movies nowadays.



Clooney was a decent Batman. With a good script he would have been fine. Same with Affleck. Neither were the best choices, but with a good script they would have done at least acceptably inb the role.



Wow, a bunch of shitty arthouse films. Surely, that qualifies him for the role. Might as well hire David Lynch or Cronenberg q.

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Well, since I'm right about 90% of the time, I'm feeling pretty confident.
I hope this is in reference to your statement that you ate 90% right about your own tastes and not anything broader than that, because if not, your posting history indicates that math is not your strong suit.
Clooney took a massive crap on the Batman character by playing him as an offensively flaming homosexual, so if that's your idea of "decent", you need to take a serious look at your own opinions and rethink some things.
Methinks you might consider edging back from the brink before you step into the abyss.
 
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Agree to disagree. Clooney is just Clooney playing Batman. There feels like little sincerity or even interest in his performance.

Which is basically my point -- that Clooney's look and screen persona are a far better fit for Bruce Wayne than Keaton's or Kilmer's or even Bale's were, so he didn't have to stretch very far. He's got the same kind of classic movie-star looks and debonair charm that Adam West had (and note that West was considered an up-and-coming romantic leading man type before Batman typecast him). And what he's done in other movies where he played characters with darkness and intensity shows that he would've been capable of doing Batman well if, as I already said, he'd had good enough material to engage him more as an actor.

Some roles bring out more of an actor's talent than others. Scarlett Johanssen was the weakest member of the Iron Man 2 cast when all she had to do was look sexy and fight bad guys, but once The Avengers and subsequent movies gave her an actual character to play, she proved she was on the same level as the rest of the cast. So I'm not saying Clooney was good in B&R. I'm saying he would have been good in a better Batman movie. The actor isn't always to blame for the faults in the material. Which brings us right back to Pattinson.
 
George Clooney blatantly admitted in an interview that he played Batman as flamingly homosexual, so nice try with the "you're wrong" memes.
 
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