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News Variety Reports Robert Pattinson is the new Batman

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Even Wayne himself went out in a ski mask in his early crimefighting days before he narrowed down the whole "Bat" persona and design, as seen in "Batman: Year One" and "Batman Begins."

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And "Batman: Mask of the Phantasm":
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In some versions he doesn't even bother with a ski mask
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^ Ah yes, that's from the Year One comic. It's been ages since I read it. Looking through it again now, I don't see the ski mask anywhere. I must have misremembered where that depiction originally came from.

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^ That'd be amazing! I guess given Batman's detective skills, I always thought The Riddler had the potential to be Batman's Moriarty. Though The Joker also covers some of that ground.
So why do we need the Riddler???

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Wow, Batman looks so... mecha. Something from Japanese Anime.
 
Ahh, I remember the days when they actually waited to see if the movie was successful before they started making spinoffs.
Do you remember how there were plans for a show called Transylvania, which would’ve been a spin-off from the Hugh Jackman Van Helsing film? And, needless to say, when VH bombed, Transylvania was quietly staked through the heart.
 
So why do we need the Riddler???


I dunno. Probably a riddle in itself, isn't it? Sorry, couldn't resist :D But yeah, I have to admit to being a bit confused over the two characters over the years, when it would seem that one character of that nature would suffice. It sounds like at one point, there was much more purpose to either character, but lately the focus has seemed to be more on the Joker with similar material.
 
The Joker and the Riddler are not the same thing at all. Jokes are visceral, riddles are intellectual. The Joker is a force of chaos and sadism, an abusive bully and malignant narcissist who takes pleasure in making other people suffer. The essence of the Riddler is that he's compelled to prove he's the smartest guy around, so he's constantly trying to outwit Batman -- and failing, which just strengthens his compulsion. I suppose he's a narcissist too, but not in the same way. The Riddler's obsessed with proving he's not a failure; the Joker gets a power trip out of making others fail.

Come to think of it, I guess you could say that Batman is the Riddler's Moriarty -- the one nemesis he can't defeat, the mastermind he's determined to bring down even if he has to pursue him to destruction. Or maybe Batman is the Riddler's Irene Adler, the one person who ever defeated him and thus an object of preoccupation.


As for the color schemes, a lot of comics villains favored green and purple -- Lex Luthor, Green Goblin, etc. Heroes tended to favor red, blue, and yellow, and green and purple made a contrast. And they didn't have a lot of colors to choose from back then.
 
The Joker and the Riddler are not the same thing at all. Jokes are visceral, riddles are intellectual. The Joker is a force of chaos and sadism, an abusive bully and malignant narcissist who takes pleasure in making other people suffer.

No, I know that. But what I mean is that the differences seem less pronounced than they may have been in the past. Personally, I'd probably much rather have to deal with The Riddler.
 
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