Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by antichristhill, May 17, 2019.
And "Batman: Mask of the Phantasm":
In some versions he doesn't even bother with a ski mask
^ Ah yes, that's from the Year One comic. It's been ages since I read it. Looking through it again now, I don't see the ski mask anywhere. I must have misremembered where that depiction originally came from.
The scar is all people will remember.
Colin Farrell may be reprising his role as The Penguin in a prequel show about Mr Cobblepot’s rise to fame https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/the-batman-spinoff-series-penguin-hbo-max-1235063438/
So why do we need the Riddler???
Wow, Batman looks so... mecha. Something from Japanese Anime.
Ahh, I remember the days when they actually waited to see if the movie was successful before they started making spinoffs.
Do you remember how there were plans for a show called Transylvania, which would’ve been a spin-off from the Hugh Jackman Van Helsing film? And, needless to say, when VH bombed, Transylvania was quietly staked through the heart.
Cobblepot vs Pennyworth coming soon to HBO EpiMax
I dunno. Probably a riddle in itself, isn't it? Sorry, couldn't resist But yeah, I have to admit to being a bit confused over the two characters over the years, when it would seem that one character of that nature would suffice. It sounds like at one point, there was much more purpose to either character, but lately the focus has seemed to be more on the Joker with similar material.
Its also ironic both characters share the same color schemes. An in-joke from the comic guys?
The Joker and the Riddler are not the same thing at all. Jokes are visceral, riddles are intellectual. The Joker is a force of chaos and sadism, an abusive bully and malignant narcissist who takes pleasure in making other people suffer. The essence of the Riddler is that he's compelled to prove he's the smartest guy around, so he's constantly trying to outwit Batman -- and failing, which just strengthens his compulsion. I suppose he's a narcissist too, but not in the same way. The Riddler's obsessed with proving he's not a failure; the Joker gets a power trip out of making others fail.
Come to think of it, I guess you could say that Batman is the Riddler's Moriarty -- the one nemesis he can't defeat, the mastermind he's determined to bring down even if he has to pursue him to destruction. Or maybe Batman is the Riddler's Irene Adler, the one person who ever defeated him and thus an object of preoccupation.
As for the color schemes, a lot of comics villains favored green and purple -- Lex Luthor, Green Goblin, etc. Heroes tended to favor red, blue, and yellow, and green and purple made a contrast. And they didn't have a lot of colors to choose from back then.
The Joker certainly wouldn't have worked in the Riddler's place in "Hush."
No, I know that. But what I mean is that the differences seem less pronounced than they may have been in the past. Personally, I'd probably much rather have to deal with The Riddler.
That Hush animated movie was weird. I don’t know why they changed it to the Riddler.
Maybe just to surprise everyone who knew the comics story and was expecting Tommy Elliot?
I could never figure out the big deal over Hush. Both the storyline and the villain were a bust for me.
It had some good art from Jim Lee
Well, there is that.
I have zero interest in this and the Gotham PD series.
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