Vanguard Questions
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And if it were to happen, it wouldn't have happened yet. By my estimate, "The Ultimate Computer" would take place shortly after the last events depicted in Vanguard: Declassified.
A watchtower class station is seen in a few episodes of the remastered edition of TOS. Though it/they are supposed to be much smaller than Vanguard. They used Drexler's model.
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Star Trek magazine, Issue 35
http://www.davidmack.pro/blog/?p=3144
Memory Beta
http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/USS_Dauntless_(23rd_century)
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From Marco Palmieri's blog Otherworld Editiorial:
http://otherworldeditorial.wordpress.com/tag/star-trek/
Yes, the registry number conflicts with U.S.S. Essex, NCC-1697, stated in the Star Trek Encyclopedia.
From Marco Palmieri's blog Otherworld Editiorial:
Source:
http://otherworldeditorial.wordpress.com/tag/star-trek/
Yes, the registry number conflicts with U.S.S. Essex, NCC-1697, stated in the Star Trek Encyclopedia.
...But the registry or the class identity isn't actually in the Declassified story? Just in the cover art?
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Oh, I'll simply keep thinking of the Dauntless as NCC-I697, an intelligence gathering vessel just like NCC-I894.
Timo Saloniemi
You're welcome.
The U.S.S. Ahkeil is a Locknar-class frigate from the FASA Star Trek Role Playing Game from the 1980's.
http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Loknar_class
U.S.S. Theseus and U.S.S. Hannibal are Saladin-class destroyers from the Star Fleet Technical Manual by Franz Joseph.
http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Saladin_class
No, the ship they're talking about doesn't appear on the cover of Declassified. That's a different ship entirely
The main ship on the cover of Declassified is a Ptolemy-class transport/tug. According to Memory Beta it's the U.S.S. Al-Rashid.
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Ptolemy-class transport/tug is also in the Star Fleet Technical Manual by Franz Joseph.
I can understand why the spelling of Loknar changed to this more "English-sounding" one somewhere down the line, but why did USS Ahkeil become USS Akhiel? Or are they supposed to be different ships, and the similarity in names is a coincidence?
And if the image in that link, with the Klingon D-7 and the Dauntless, is not from the cover of Declassified, where is it from?
Timo Saloniemi
I can't say as I've seen it anywhere other than the magazine article. It's definitely not the cover of Declassified though.
Here's a link to the cover of Declassified.
- Byron
http://books.google.com/books?id=-J...&resnum=1&ved=0CDEQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false
Memory Beta has two entries (one for Akheil and another for Akhiel), the Federation Ship Recognition Manual has Akheil, while the book Open Secrets names it Akhiel. I verified in Open Secrets it is Locknar class, rather than Loknar class in the Federation Ship Recognition Manual.
I defer to David Mack whether the ship is meant to be of the same class as the Loknar in the Federation Ship Recognition Manual. I presumed that it was meant to be the same ship in the Federation Ship Recognition Manual and that Akhiel and Locknar are typographic errors.
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Thanks to you both!
The naming issue appears to have been discussed at Memory Beta already; it's quite possible that the original spelling Ahkeil was intended to be an alien location name, but perhaps equally possible that the FASA writer was aiming for (and fumbling with) Akhiel which is an alternate spelling for Achilles and a heroic name as such (although ill fitting the Loknar theme of locations).
I guess we can accept the nondescript narrator of Open Secrets as making spelling errors, or giving his or her or its narration to a secretary or device responsible for the errors. I further guess we should be thankful that Ward decided against ballasting this part of the book with registry numbers and their ambiguities, conflicts and confessional disagreements...
Timo Saloniemi
The naming issue appears to have been discussed at Memory Beta already; it's quite possible that the original spelling Ahkeil was intended to be an alien location name, but perhaps equally possible that the FASA writer was aiming for (and fumbling with) Akhiel which is an alternate spelling for Achilles and a heroic name as such (although ill fitting the Loknar theme of locations).
I guess we can accept the nondescript narrator of Open Secrets as making spelling errors, or giving his or her or its narration to a secretary or device responsible for the errors. I further guess we should be thankful that Ward decided against ballasting this part of the book with registry numbers and their ambiguities, conflicts and confessional disagreements...
Timo Saloniemi
I know the answer should be "read the book!", which I will, but as a fan of FASA's Trek manuals (although not the games themselves), I've gotta ask if Vanguard's USS Lo(c)knar had an all-Andorian crew as per the FASA version, where it was part of the "blue fleet" (akin to the all-Vulcan USS Intrepid of "The Immunity Syndrome")?
I didn't realize all the frigates were supposed to be Andorian...
No, the one helping protect SB 47 was not described in detail, beyond being specified as a frigate, and weaker in combat than a Constitution heavy cruiser. Although players of the game might have a differing opinion on that!
Timo Saloniemi
No, the one helping protect SB 47 was not described in detail, beyond being specified as a frigate, and weaker in combat than a Constitution heavy cruiser. Although players of the game might have a differing opinion on that!
Timo Saloniemi
Not all of them, but they made up the majority of the blue fleet. Supposedly the Loknar-class was an Andorian design, and since the lead ship was named after (FASA's version of) the Andorian capital city....
Thanks for the info.
i don't like the Loknar class. i could've lived without it ever getting into the books...
The reference to the old FASA Star Trek Role Playing Game is fun.
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