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V: "John May" 4/13/10 - Grading & Discussion

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Has it been established how tough the fake human skin is to get off? If it's not as easy to simply switch faces like it was in the original series? Another character could turn out to be John May.... if it lasts that long.
 
^ Hell, what if Ryan is John May? May gets the upper hand at his 'execution', but realizing he needs to disappear, assumes the identity of his would-be executioner. Would certainly give a rather different spin to the funeral scene--amongst others.

Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman
 
^ I'm suspicious. The flashbacks are meant to establish Ryan's relationship with John May, but the most critical emotional moment--him killing May--goes unfilmed?

Mmm hmm. You know the First Rule of Science Fiction: If you didn't see the body, they're not really dead. :D

Maybe the twist is that Ryan didn't kill John May. John May killed Ryan and stole his skin! :rommie: (I see that I need to post the same day the dang show airs if I'm not going to be beaten to the punch on stuff like that.)

OMG, Alan Tudyk roofied Elizabeth Mitchell! Which by the way is why Tyler is so important.
Maybe the twist is, Erica isn't Tyler's mother, either. After all, neither parent's blood type matched...

omg the actor playing the son is awful! his "he's not my dad you lied!" bits were cringe inducing.
I think they botched casting two roles that are probably the most important ones - Ryan and Tyler. The former is a nooze, the latter is just bad. Meanwhile, terrific actors like Alan Tudyk, Joel Gresch and Nicolas Lea are underused. Argh!

I'm not so sure I'm sold on the idea of having the premise hinge on the superiority of human emotion. Emotions are what allow humans - a social species - to bond and succeed. They aren't "good" in and of themselves - they're useful.

I've been thinking that Bliss was some kind of drug-like dysfunction among the V's, but since they're also a social species, but lack emotion, they must have some other social glue. Bliss is the obvious candidate. Either it's natural for their species or was engineered into them so that they could do things like collaborate on building spaceships and invading planets. Otherwise, they'd just be a bunch of lizards squabbling for territory back on Lizard World.

So what's the real difference between emotions and Bliss? Both are adaptations by social species that have allowed them to be highly successful.

But the writers of this show aren't putting that much thought into any of this. Emotions are good because that's the cliche they're following.
 
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thanks, i knew the face but could not put my finger on it and it was really bugging me. :lol:
i will keep watching. so far i like it plus there is so little sci-fi on anymore.
 
^ Hell, what if Ryan is John May? May gets the upper hand at his 'execution', but realizing he needs to disappear, assumes the identity of his would-be executioner. Would certainly give a rather different spin to the funeral scene--amongst others.

Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman

Now that is a great idea! :techman:
I like where your going with that, sure would add lots to what has been going on.
 
Anna’s soldiers must grow like Jem’Hadar, otherwise it’ll take several years for them to show up as viable adversaries.

PS: I'm still waiting to see unmasked alien visitors. It didn't even take this long in the original V.
 
Just watched it on Hulu. Loved it. I rated it Excellent. Any episode that concludes and makes me want to watch the next episode right away is a winner, and the last couple have been doing that.

Oh, and I heart Laura Vandervoort.
 
^ Hell, what if Ryan is John May? May gets the upper hand at his 'execution', but realizing he needs to disappear, assumes the identity of his would-be executioner. Would certainly give a rather different spin to the funeral scene--amongst others.

Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman

Now that is a great idea! :techman:
I like where your going with that, sure would add lots to what has been going on.

It would make Ryan's sudden adaptation to human emotion more plausible. The episode really didn't convince me that Original Ryan would jump right into human emotion so easily, but since John May already did, maybe he's just a genetic freak among the V's? Then the question becomes, how did the others rebel? Maybe John May convinced them to get off Bliss, and they needed some substitute?
 
Nothing much happened in the show. The show to me doesn't seem to be progress very much. Also Chad is getting on my nerves. Along with the annoying British "SAS" guy.

This John May and Ryan and his baby storyline needs to progress. Now that May is dead. I hope they focus more on Joshua. I like his style. Reminds me of Charlie Jade.
 
Joshua strikes me as a bland, interchangeable type - the resident traitor-V - he'll no doubt get killed soon and a new temp character will take his role. Same goes for the SAS guy (no great loss, he's not very interesting).

The writers would be better off working harder on the main characters' stories. What's up with Chad? Has he sold his soul to the devil so quickly? What's up with Father Jack? Is he really going to go lizard on us?
 
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Charlie Jade?

It was a Canadian show set in a future Cape Town run by a giant company. Very Authotarian. The main character manages to get set into an another dimension which is into our Cape Town. While there he has to find a way to stop this Cape Town and a Paradise Cape Town in an third dimension. While there he has to stop the company that run his world from stealing all the resources to help his people. Sounds boring and at the beginning it's boring but once it gets in it's groove it's all good. I'm not half upset at it being cancelled. The show ended with a powerful series finalee and I wouldn't want it to be ruined by an another season written by writers who have run out of ideas.


Joshua strikes me as a bland, interchangeable type - the resident traitor-V - he'll no doubt get killed soon and a new temp character will take his role. Same goes for the SAS guy (no great loss, he's not very interesting).

The writers would be better off working harder on the main characters' stories. What's up with Chad? Has he sold his soul to the devil so quickly? What's up with Father Jack? Is he really going to go lizard on us?


The thing I like with Joshua is the potential and his demeanor. You get a feeling that there is something behind the surface (no pun intended). Even though we see little of him. I like him much better then Valerie,Chad and the SAS guy with an annoying accent.

It pains me to see these characters up there. They all seem one sided to me and with little potential other then the small story they have so far which has run it's due. From the first episode during the interview Chad started to have doubts the Vs. What does he do to show mistrust? Talk about it to his secretary, goes and vists a Human doctor and has a debate about the Vs on tv. Thats all around 8 mins compared to the rest of the time he spends giving propaganda to. I which they would play this up more.


So far I've held my opinion on Ryan because you know there is something that will come up about his past. Something that doesn't involve making his girlfriend (a woman he is meant to love) to carry a half Alien child without her knowledge.



On Father Jack. I actually like this guy. It's not just because the actor is Joel. I hope to see more of him. Less Alien baby and teenage interspecies romance and more haunted past Catholic.
 
The thing I like with Joshua is the potential and his demeanor. You get a feeling that there is something behind the surface (no pun intended). Even though we see little of him. I like him much better then Valerie,Chad and the SAS guy with an annoying accent.
Valerie's another blah character. Maybe she can die in childbirth, or better yet, kill Ryan for getting her into that mess and then die in childbirth.

The "good" thing about having so many go-nowhere characters or miscast characters is that it opens up the cannon-fodder possibilities, which would give this show the feeling that anyone can die. I would kill off Joshua, SAS/annoying accent guy, Ryan, Valerie, Tyler (although I know they can't kill him, his role is probably too vital), Tyler'd dad (though I do like Nicolas Lea) and frankly I'm not wild about Elizabeth Mitchell's performance in this show. She needs to stop being so dang ethereal and Juliet-like and start channelling Sarah Connor, or Erica can dieeeeeee!!! too. :rommie:

I'd keep Chad just because his role is interesting - the media creep who probably (?) will be seeing the error of his ways too late. Anna and Lisa have to stay, since they are central to the V's eeevil plan. Anna's right-hand-man is fun, so he stays. Father Jack has interesting potential. I'd just take a scythe to this cast and largely start over next season, assuming there is one.
 
Above average. The series has definitely improved since the fall. It has a much better pacing and the threads they are developing have a nice sense of urgency lacking from the first four. Things are getting interesting, the pacing has a nice brisk clip to it and the developments are exciting.

The only thing I'm not too crazy about is the whole well worn alien species with a Queen and a Hive Mind/Great Link Bliss effect.
 
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