Good point. I think the writers just want us to assume that bad-guy-terrorist is able to get confessions out of anybody through his sheer badassness.
V: "Heretic's Fork" 4/27/10 - Grading & Discussion
- Thread starter Aragorn
- Start date
Good point. I think the writers just want us to assume that bad-guy-terrorist is able to get confessions out of anybody through his sheer badassness.
Why didn't Evil Scottish Guy just threaten the guy's family? That's obviously his weak point. If he'll sell out humanity to save his daughter, he'll turn right around and sell out the V's for the same reason. Evil Scottish Guy isn't even a good torturer.
But back to the io9 story...the person with the poor strategy is Anna, not Erica.
Erica and the Fifth Column can never beat the V's in the PR battle because everyone will have more self-interest in believing the V's. So Erica is right: violence is the best approach. Probably won't work, but it has a better chance of working than PR would.
But Anna is an idiot! Why hunt down the Fifth Column in secret when she can go on TV and expose them as drooling bigots who want to spoil things for everyone - all the V's great tech and health care will go bye-bye. Anna should be overjoyed that the Fifth Column is providing an instant foe for her to exploit in the popular imagination - nativist redneck jackasses who hate the V's because they're aliens.
Anna should be creating her own version of the Fifth Column to publicly commit atrocities, go on TV and YouTube to present an obviously fear- and bigotry-based anti-V argument, and just wreak havoc and piss everyone off with how ugly and vile they are. How could the public be expected to distinguish between the fake Fifth Column and the real ones? It would be extraordinarily easy to jumble the two hopelessly in the popular imagination so that the real Fifth Column's forlorn hope in the PR arena becomes nonexistent.
The hybrid baby could also be a good tool to use - but a dangerous one. Anna should announce the baby's existence and enlist everyone's help in finding the poor parents and baby (whose father arrived with the ships but went awol, tsk tsk, but these things happen) who are being threatened by the Fifth Column who want to kill the poor tyke simply for being "different." This announcement will genuinely freak out lots of humans and ignite their genuine bigotry, thus casting the V's even more as victims, but possibly creating a groundswell of hatred that they can't contain. So it's a risky strategm that could backfire. The upside is that the furor would completely de-legitimize the genuine Fifth Column which would be swamped by the fake, V-created Fifth Column and the far larger genuine human bigotry-fueled backlash.
Give people an excuse to trade their freedom for magic tech and health care, and they'll flock to it. Just make sure you give them an "out" so they don't have to admit to themselves what they are doing. The way to do that is by casting the V's as well-meaning but naive aliens who are victims of ignorant and bigoted humanity, who are disgustingly ingrateful for all the V's gifts, but of course the V's are far too saintly to mind. Anna needs a tutorial from the Dominion on how to conquer a planet.
But back to the io9 story...the person with the poor strategy is Anna, not Erica.
Erica and the Fifth Column can never beat the V's in the PR battle because everyone will have more self-interest in believing the V's. So Erica is right: violence is the best approach. Probably won't work, but it has a better chance of working than PR would.
But Anna is an idiot! Why hunt down the Fifth Column in secret when she can go on TV and expose them as drooling bigots who want to spoil things for everyone - all the V's great tech and health care will go bye-bye. Anna should be overjoyed that the Fifth Column is providing an instant foe for her to exploit in the popular imagination - nativist redneck jackasses who hate the V's because they're aliens.
Anna should be creating her own version of the Fifth Column to publicly commit atrocities, go on TV and YouTube to present an obviously fear- and bigotry-based anti-V argument, and just wreak havoc and piss everyone off with how ugly and vile they are. How could the public be expected to distinguish between the fake Fifth Column and the real ones? It would be extraordinarily easy to jumble the two hopelessly in the popular imagination so that the real Fifth Column's forlorn hope in the PR arena becomes nonexistent.
The hybrid baby could also be a good tool to use - but a dangerous one. Anna should announce the baby's existence and enlist everyone's help in finding the poor parents and baby (whose father arrived with the ships but went awol, tsk tsk, but these things happen) who are being threatened by the Fifth Column who want to kill the poor tyke simply for being "different." This announcement will genuinely freak out lots of humans and ignite their genuine bigotry, thus casting the V's even more as victims, but possibly creating a groundswell of hatred that they can't contain. So it's a risky strategm that could backfire. The upside is that the furor would completely de-legitimize the genuine Fifth Column which would be swamped by the fake, V-created Fifth Column and the far larger genuine human bigotry-fueled backlash.
Give people an excuse to trade their freedom for magic tech and health care, and they'll flock to it. Just make sure you give them an "out" so they don't have to admit to themselves what they are doing. The way to do that is by casting the V's as well-meaning but naive aliens who are victims of ignorant and bigoted humanity, who are disgustingly ingrateful for all the V's gifts, but of course the V's are far too saintly to mind. Anna needs a tutorial from the Dominion on how to conquer a planet.
Most peoples first instinct is not to cut into somebody several inches to see if they are wearing a "Edgar suit"
Think I'm dropping this one off the DVR. The last episode or two are just sitting there, and can't bring myself to watch them. Just a boring show that's really not going anywhere or doing anything. Can't get enough energy to care about this one, and thats pretty shocking to lose someone like me, who almost never quits a show, and follows through LONG after it stops being good. Heroes is probably the only show I've quit in recent memory, and only quit that one after several years (this season was the first one I skipped).
Just nothing happening in this show, no reason to care, no hints at what the bad guys are supposed to be trying to DO with all their PR campaign, and the characters are just blah. And the ratings suck, so not like it's going to be around much longer anyway, ABC is a real network, with options (not NBC or CW, who would kill for these piss-poor numbers). Done with this one.
Just nothing happening in this show, no reason to care, no hints at what the bad guys are supposed to be trying to DO with all their PR campaign, and the characters are just blah. And the ratings suck, so not like it's going to be around much longer anyway, ABC is a real network, with options (not NBC or CW, who would kill for these piss-poor numbers). Done with this one.
...or at least explain how nobody other than x, y, or z knows what's going on (everybody else being worker bees due to bliss)... We really need the conversation, though.
I finally got caught up and I have to say I agree with most of the people in this thread. There's no urgency to this show. The characters get away with way too much. And there's no reason Ryan can't tell the rest of the Fifth Column exactly what's so bad about the Vs. For sure, they've done some shady stuff, and we as the audience know Anna is up to more than she lets on, but none of the other characters have quite articulated why they're against the Vs. Georgie's family was killed by them, so I guess he gets a pass. There was also that little massacre in the opening episode. But as a group, why are they against the Vs other than "we don't trust them"?