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UT: TFV - Operation Vanguard

Despite Terrence's ego, he's still one of the most talented commanding officers Starfleet has. Say what you want about the man,

Okay...he's a douche. Who did he have to bribe to get an admiral's pin?
Maybe he borrowed them from his dad? :shrug:

And I still insist that Terrence Glover is merely misunderstood. He's a complicated man, and no one understands him but his wo-- no... actually, even she doesn't fully understand him.

Hey, what's up with the Terrence bashing? :). As for ego, Kirk's ego wasn't small, and for abrasiveness, Jellico wasn't cuddly. Terrence is multifaceted, which is what I intended. And I've often tried to juxtapose his harsher, cocky, ambitious side with his tender, compassionate, vulnerable side. I've written almost as much about his friendships with Pedro, Pell, etc. as much as about his beef with Sandhurst or with others, and I would argue that Terrence played a major part in the transition of Donald from engineer to captain, if for no other reason that Donald makes certain not to command in a style like Terrence's :).
 
Hey, what's up with the Terrence bashing? :).

C'mon. It's not like this is new. ;)

As for ego, Kirk's ego wasn't small,

Kirk was a womanizing idiot. Not a great role model.

and for abrasiveness, Jellico wasn't cuddly.

Jellico was abrasive with a purpose, not abrasive for judgmentalism's sake. That's why Glover is a douche and Jellico is THE MAN.

Terrence is multifaceted, which is what I intended. And I've often tried to juxtapose his harsher, cocky, ambitious side with his tender, compassionate, vulnerable side. I've written almost as much about his friendships with Pedro, Pell, etc. as much as about his beef with Sandhurst or with others, and I would argue that Terrence played a major part in the transition of Donald from engineer to captain, if for no other reason that Donald makes certain not to command in a style like Terrence's :).

I'm not saying he's a bad character. I can see what you've tried to do, and it's a testament to your skills as a writer that I have such strong feelings about him. They just happen to be extremely negative feelings.
 
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I guess that counts for something. :).

Though I would argue that Jellico's issues with Riker was as much personal, maybe more so, as they were professional. He also seemed to have a too quickly formed negative judgment about the Enterprise crew and was making Troi change her uniform really necessary? I agreed with the move, to be fair, but it wasn't necessary nor had Troi's old uniform impeded her performance or anyone else's. Jellico just had a personal issue with it.

His abrasiveness with the Cardassians was part of his plan, but his interpersonal relationships with the Enterprise crew were suspect. And perhaps a result of his own insecurities yet need to be domineering, but I can't see the purpose behind them beyond that.
 
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I guess that counts for something. :).

Though I would argue that Jellico's issues with Riker was as much personal, maybe more so, as they were professional. He also seemed to have a too quickly formed negative judgment about the Enterprise crew and was making Troi change her uniform really necessary? I agreed with the move, to be fair, but it wasn't necessary nor had Troi's old uniform impeded her performance or anyone else's. Jellico just had a personal issue with it.

His abrasiveness with the Cardassians was part of his plan, but his interpersonal relationships with the Enterprise crew were suspect. And perhaps a result of his own insecurities yet need to be domineering, but I can't see the purpose behind them beyond that.

Jellico's overall purpose was to stop a Cardassian fleet. The only resource he had available to do that was the Enterprise-D, and to make it useful he had to change the mindset of a crew of explorers into a martial mindset.

It doesn't matter that Troi's unitard didn't effect her job or anyone else's when the job was flying to Barimba VII and regulating the ping-pong ball dispute raging between the eastern and western factions. You don't risk it becoming a problem when the job is to stand in harm's way against a whole fleet of bad guys who want to cross the border and kill people and break things.

And any tension between Jellico and Riker was instigated by Riker. It's every Captain's right to have a First Officer that will stick by him, and Riker's attitude devolved rapidly from "appropriate dissent" to "F--- you! Picard's the best captain in the universe and I hate you and everybody hates you and I'm not helping you, so there!" I would take that personally, too.

And if anything's suspect, it's Troi's assessment of Jellico's confidence. Not only did it come after he made her change out of the bodysuit (poor baby), let's face it: How much would you trust someone who's only job for six years seemed to be empathically pointing out the blindingly obvious? (Troi looks at raging man on screen. "He's very angry." Troi walks away from grieving woman. "She's sad.")

Jellico was given a near impossible task and an inadequate platform and a hostile crew to accomplish it with. Under those circumstances he needed to be a hard-ass just to get anything done.

Meanwhile, from what I've read of your stories Glover hasn't faced circumstances anywhere near as dire. He has a great support system, a mostly loyal crew and until Vanguard hadn't had to face an enemy as daunting, yet there are times he seems to have gone out of his way to be a total dick to people who love him. You can call that "complexity" all you like. I've already told you my word for it.
 
Meanwhile, from what I've read of your stories Glover hasn't faced circumstances anywhere near as dire. He has a great support system, a mostly loyal crew and until Vanguard hadn't had to face an enemy as daunting, yet there are times he seems to have gone out of his way to be a total dick to people who love him. You can call that "complexity" all you like. I've already told you my word for it.

Except of course if you count the time he was nearly tortured to death by Cardassian extremists or hooked on Corillan acid at the hands of the Romulans causing him to lose most of his long term memory.

But I think we're getting slightly off topic here.
 
Meanwhile, from what I've read of your stories Glover hasn't faced circumstances anywhere near as dire. He has a great support system, a mostly loyal crew and until Vanguard hadn't had to face an enemy as daunting, yet there are times he seems to have gone out of his way to be a total dick to people who love him. You can call that "complexity" all you like. I've already told you my word for it.

Except of course if you count the time he was nearly tortured to death by Cardassian extremists or hooked on Corillan acid at the hands of the Romulans causing him to lose most of his long term memory.

I'm sorry...so that gives him an excuse to be an ass the times he's not facing Cardassian or Romulan torturers?


But I think we're getting slightly off topic here.

No we're not. The fitness of the Vanguard mission commander is a perfectly valid topic of discussion until a new chapter goes up.
 
TFV - Operation Vanguard (Chapter 2 continued)

Pell sat sullenly in the holographic briefing room, still smoldering under Verrik’s watchful eye.

The doors swished open to admit Sandhurst, who cast a brief, icy glance at Pell as he slid into a chair across the table from her.

“Disobeying direct orders, conduct unbecoming, and assault on a fellow officer,” Sandhurst began without preamble, reading verbatim from a padd before setting the device down on the table and staring at her with evident approbation. “What the hell is wrong with you, Ojana? I’ve never seen you like this before.”

“You’ve never seen me put in a corner, Donald,” she responded coolly.

“You were issued specific orders to report here, and you refused.”

Pell rose from her chair, prompting Verrik to stiffen in reaction as she appeared ready to come across the table at Sandhurst. “You wanted me back here for purely personal reasons. You’d have conjured any excuse necessary to bring me back to the Alpha Quadrant.”

He looked at her evenly, unmoved by the heat of her accusing stare. “I’ve given you your space for over six months, Ojana. Whatever else this might be, it isn’t a ploy on my behalf to get you back.” Sandhurst leaned forward, seeking to convey his absolute sincerity. “I understand what the Velk mission means to you… it’s your Lakesh. Nevertheless, I’ve ordered your recall because your talents are needed on a highly sensitive assignment of the utmost importance.”

Pell snorted derisively and looked away. “You have no idea, do you? The Velk were wiped from existence, and then brought back just as effortlessly, the playthings of gods. Only when they were ‘restored’ it was incompletely, with people and events changed irrevocably.” She finally turned back to face him. “It’s left their society and spirituality in shambles. As a species they’re lost, confused, and hurting terribly.”

“I was there, Pell. I remember,” Sandhurst said quietly.

“We did that, Donald. We did!” Tears welled up in the Bajoran’s eyes and coursed down her cheeks.

“We contributed to the problem, certainly,” Sandhurst conceded, “but the rogue Changeling provoked the wrath of the Gambis. None of that tragedy was your fault, Ojana.”

“No!” she shouted. “You don’t get to wipe your hands clean, walk away and then try to comfort me with hollow platitudes!”

“Is that what you’ve been doing at Velkohn?” he asked, dumbfounded. “Trying to atone for what… your sins against their people?”

“No,” she demurred in a small voice. “I’ve been trying to atone for yours.”

An awkward, painful silence reigned for nearly a full minute as Sandhurst tried to find some response to that accusation. Finding none, he continued, “I’m going to play you the briefing on the mission we received. If, after viewing that, you’re still not interested in participating, I’ll order you to remain silent about what you’ve learned and then I’ll arrange for your immediate return to the Velkohn Recovery Command.”

That got Pell’s attention, and for the first time since Sandhurst entered the room, he saw a flicker of the old Ojana behind her eyes.

Sandhurst stood and motioned to Verrik to exit the holodeck with him.

After the two men stepped into the corridor and the door to the holodeck had closed, Verrik turned towards the captain. “You recalled your former mate back from the Gamma Quadrant against her will to participate in this mission, sir? Surely there are numerous other qualified officers with diplomatic experience in Starfleet.”

“She’s one of the best, Mister Verrik, and her skills more than offset this current display of pique.”

“They would have to,” the Vulcan replied dryly.

*****

A half hour later Pell emerged from the holodeck, visibly shaken by what she’d learned. She turned to Sandhurst, her expression tinged with regret. “I understand,” Pell said simply.

“We need you,” Sandhurst emphasized. “If you’re unwilling to serve aboard Europa, then we’ll find a place for you on one of the other task force vessels. Velkohn isn’t going anywhere, Ojana, and we both know decades of work remain to be done there.”

Pell nodded numbly. “I apologize, Captain. I agree to the mission. Please submit the necessary datawork to have me transferred to your command.”

Sandhurst opened his mouth to reply, but Pell turned her back on him and walked away down the corridor. Verrik glanced toward Sandhurst, seeking orders regarding the diplomatic specialist.

“Let her go,” Sandhurst sighed.

“And the matter of the assaulted security officer, sir?” Verrik prompted.

“Consider this a captain’s mast,” Sandhurst said tersely. “She’ll be restricted to quarters when not on duty until such time as she’s been cleared by our incoming ship’s counselor. Additionally, I’ll place a permanent letter of reprimand in her service jacket.” He leveled a sharp look at the Vulcan. “Does that meet with your approval, Lieutenant?”

“I neither approve nor disapprove, sir. I simply sought to remind you the issue as yet had reached no resolution.”

Sandhurst said nothing as he pivoted sharply and left in the opposite direction that Pell Ojana had taken.

*****
 
Well, that went well.

Actually, I really thought it did, all things considered. Sandhurst handled Pell's wrath pretty well, maintaining his cool and simply letting the situation speak for itself. And Pell, to her credit, saw the enormity of the situation and was willing to rethink her priorities.

Perhaps a six month nap will help her calm down a bit more. :lol:

If not, the temperature will likely remain icy on Europa whenever Sandhurst and Pell are in the same room.
 
TFV - Operation Vanguard (Chapter 2 continued)

“Yes,” Ashok announced, his attention focused wholly on Europa’s engineering Master Systems Display.

Sandhurst stood there, mouth open, quite unprepared for his unasked query to be answered so succinctly. He’d only walked into the compartment a few seconds earlier.

Ashok looked askance at him, his blue features registering mild curiosity.

“So… uh…” Sandhurst cleared his throat. “That’s a ‘yes’ then? It is a five year mission, perhaps lon—“

“Yes, sir,” Ashok repeated. He turned towards the empty shaft behind him that should have contained the warp intermix chamber. “I’ve begun researching Commander Ra-Havreii’s design, including the arguments made in opposition to the experimental nature of his hypotheses by one Lieutenant Sandhurst.” The enormous Bolian glanced back at him. “It seems you made yourself a professional enemy during that exchange.”

“Deservedly so,” Sandhurst agreed, stepping forward to join Ashok at the waist-high railing separating them from the decks-deep shaft running through the heart of Europa’s secondary hull.

“Captain, if the Luna-class is such a grotesque failure as a design, why would you agree to command one, especially given what happened to the Luna herself?”

Sandhurst chuckled, shaking his head with reluctant humor. “No, Lieutenant, it’s not a failure. Ra-Havreii is a master shipwright, and the Luna is a breathtakingly elegant design. Simple, sturdy, reliable, and incorporating all the finest advancements of the past half-century.” He reached out a hand and ran it along the top of the safety railing. “This ship was made to leap to the stars, just as Gibraltar was a century ago, both of them the finest example of their era’s exploratory ambitions.”

Ashok stared at him with unabashed confusion.

“It’s the design of her warp drive, Ashok. Ra-Havreii went in a completely new direction, a theory nearly as outrageous as the failed transwarp experiments. There may have been a kernel of a brilliant idea at the heart of his hypothesis, but rather than give that concept the years or decades of research it deserved, he rushed a prototype into production and slaved that engine to the wondrous starship design he’d already crafted.” Sandhurst reached up and rubbed his eyes tiredly, blowing out a long, mournful sounding breath. “And for some unknowable reason, SCE let him do it, despite some of the finest engineers in the Fleet telling them it wouldn’t work.”

“Then you’ve already given up hope of finding a way to make his engine design feasible, sir?”

“There’s no point,” Sandhurst confessed. “It’s unworkable, and on some level, I suspect Starfleet is beginning to see that.”

Ashok looked completely lost. “Then what are we to do, Captain? Jerry-rig the Akira reactor core and plumbing into Europa’s guts?”

“No, Mister Ashok. Europa is a thoroughbred, and giving her the hand-me-down heart from a testosterone-fueled torpedo-boat with delusions of grandeur would be a gross disservice to her.”

Sandhurst gazed up the empty reactor shaft, his eyes twinkling with delight. “No, Lieutenant, we are going to design our own engine for this young lady, something… special.”

There was a pregnant pause before Ashok rumbled in his deep basso, “I was afraid you were going to say something like that, sir.”

Sandhurst’s laugh echoed through the decks above and below via the reactor shaft, causing more than one engineer and logistics specialist to stop and wonder.

*****
 
(Referring to the Sandhurst-Pell-Verrik scene)

Ohhh boy...normally I love your characters, but they are definitely not firing on all cylinders in this scene.

Frankly, I think she should've been kicked off the mission after that incident. With something of this magnitude at stake, she demonstrated she was not the most fit for the mission, if that kind of temper is what can be expected should something go wrong.

I also think Verrik was a little out of line--though thankfully Sandhurst did remind him of his place. If I'd been Sandhurst, though, I wouldn't have disclosed private HR matters to Verrik; I would've simply said, "I will handle it, Lieutenant," and been done with it. I can't imagine Pell would be helped any by a breach of confidentiality, should she find out about it.
 
As far as the latest scene goes...this will be good, getting to see Sandhurst play engineer! And I would have to think being a part of designing something completely new would really give Ashok a needed boost of confidence, too. I look forward to that. :)
 
Well, that went well.

Actually, I really thought it did, all things considered. Sandhurst handled Pell's wrath pretty well, maintaining his cool and simply letting the situation speak for itself. And Pell, to her credit, saw the enormity of the situation and was willing to rethink her priorities.

Perhaps a six month nap will help her calm down a bit more. :lol:

If not, the temperature will likely remain icy on Europa whenever Sandhurst and Pell are in the same room.
Geez, one would hope! However, rumor has it you come out of stasis just as pissed off as you went in! :lol:

(Referring to the Sandhurst-Pell-Verrik scene)

Ohhh boy...normally I love your characters, but they are definitely not firing on all cylinders in this scene.

Frankly, I think she should've been kicked off the mission after that incident. With something of this magnitude at stake, she demonstrated she was not the most fit for the mission, if that kind of temper is what can be expected should something go wrong.

I also think Verrik was a little out of line--though thankfully Sandhurst did remind him of his place. If I'd been Sandhurst, though, I wouldn't have disclosed private HR matters to Verrik; I would've simply said, "I will handle it, Lieutenant," and been done with it. I can't imagine Pell would be helped any by a breach of confidentiality, should she find out about it.
Pell is hurting, and has been for some time. Sandhurst knows that, and hopes that an assignment to TFV will bring her out of her depressive spiral regarding the Velk mission.

Since Pell went and made her relationship with Donald public in front of Verrik, and Verrik then mentioned that situation to the captain, it was incumbant upon him to make equally public through Verrik that Pell would receive discipline for her actions. Otherwise, it would suggest that the captain was giving his former lover preferential treatment.

As far as the latest scene goes...this will be good, getting to see Sandhurst play engineer! And I would have to think being a part of designing something completely new would really give Ashok a needed boost of confidence, too. I look forward to that. :)
I think both would be terrific outcomes, and something both men could get a great deal of good from. Thanks for commenting! :)
 
I'm not sure any discipline situation should be disclosed to other subordinates. However, given the nature of the consequences imposed on Pell--no freedom of movement off duty--it seems like it would have become quite clear by other means that something was done. And of course nothing's stopping Pell from venting to someone...or however many someones she can vent to, since I imagine she'd do a lot of it...that Sandhurst dished out some consequences.

For right now, though, Pell has a lot to prove to me.



On the engineering matter...you're very welcome. I think that's going to be a treat to read. :)
 
Gibraltar said:
Sandhurst gazed up the empty reactor shaft, his eyes twinkling with delight. “No, Lieutenant, we are going to design our own engine for this young lady, something… special.”

There was a pregnant pause before Ashok rumbled in his deep basso, “I was afraid you were going to say something like that, sir.”

Methinks I heard the laughter of a mad scien . . ., er, engineer from Sandhurst. Wow, so Donald plans to develop his own drive system and have it ready to run in six months?

Well. Alright then.
 
OK, so this may not be the mirror Pell after all but somebody who has gone through a crucible since we last seen her. And who could blame her after all she went through with the Velk.

But something tells me she and Donald are not going to become fast friends again for a while. Which is a shame. The man is hemorrhaging friends profusely.
 
So Ra-Havreii rushed a warp core design into service after a few years of experimentation and Sandhurst is going to do the same after six months of designing/building it? :eek:

No ego there, certainly. :vulcan:

We'll see how well it works. I'm thinking my ship's issues pale in comparison.
 
So Ra-Havreii rushed a warp core design into service after a few years of experimentation and Sandhurst is going to do the same after six months of designing/building it? :eek:

No ego there, certainly. :vulcan:

We'll see how well it works. I'm thinking my ship's issues pale in comparison.
Ra-Havreii's design was highly experimental. Sandhurst plans on installing a custom drive of conventional nature, using present Starfleet technology and warp-propulsion concepts.
 
I'm not sure any discipline situation should be disclosed to other subordinates.


There's no avoiding it. Most times in any ship disciplinary action is a matter of public record. It has to be so it can be enforced. Confining Pell to quarters would be pointless if nobody knew she was supposed to be confined.

That said, I have the same reservations about reinstating Pell as a diplomatic officer. If she can't be diplomatic with someone she was once intimate with...well, let's just hope Vanguard doesn't turn into a situation similar to the one that set her off.

And it's nice to see that Donald will take on a project he'll enjoy for once. He should do it in a reality show setting. I'd call Federation Hot Rod. "Today, the team pimps out a Luna-class, and the project goes down to the wire!" :D
 
I'm not sure any discipline situation should be disclosed to other subordinates.


There's no avoiding it. Most times in any ship disciplinary action is a matter of public record. It has to be so it can be enforced. Confining Pell to quarters would be pointless if nobody knew she was supposed to be confined.

That said, I have the same reservations about reinstating Pell as a diplomatic officer. If she can't be diplomatic with someone she was once intimate with...well, let's just hope Vanguard doesn't turn into a situation similar to the one that set her off.

And it's nice to see that Donald will take on a project he'll enjoy for once. He should do it in a reality show setting. I'd call Federation Hot Rod. "Today, the team pimps out a Luna-class, and the project goes down to the wire!" :D
:guffaw: That... would be priceless!
 
Sandhurst sure is a gluten for punishment. Deciding to customize a warp core and bringing his old - and disgruntled - flame onto the ship.

What could go wrong there?? ;)
 
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