So you’d prefer United Federation of Planets Starfleet Ship?
If they’re being formal, anything less than starship or spaceship might be a faux pas.
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If they’re being formal, anything less than starship or spaceship might be a faux pas.
I do not. That one's a mouthful
It didn't. It came from Franz Joseph.
It seems onscreen that USS is only used in reference to a Starfleet ship and SD reserved for civilian craft
United Star Federation. Then you could still call it "the Federation" colloquially, but the canon "United Star Ship" then makes a lot more sense.
Plus it has some nice resonance with the Romulan Star Empire.
Is this right before the opening scene in Nemesis where the entire Senate gets stoned?
Tap will need another new drummer.
Life seldom makes sense. Why should Star Trek?
You missed the opportunity to use the Melkotian head from "Spectre of the Gun".
The FSS Enterprise-E was one of several alternate versions of the Enterprise (with various prefixes (FSS, USV, US, ISS, ESS), plus a USS Sovereign, a USS Stargazer-A and an IKS Qu' (previously a USS/UES/ESS Enterprise).
These are all of the registry number prefix types I've collected over the years. They are Legion, and some are a little... silly:
Code:
NCC ------- Naval Construction Contract
NCC-FXXXX - Naval Construction Contract/Freighter-Tender
NCC-SXXXX - Naval Construction Contract/Support Vessel
NCC-GXXXX - Naval Construction Contract/General Use
NX -------- Naval Experiment
NCO ------- Naval Construction Order (For Alternate-Federation Vessels)
NDT ------- Naval Detached Transport
NSP ------- Naval Science Program
NSX ------- Naval SpecialOps Experiment
SNC ------- Shi'ar Naval Contract
Q --------- Intelligence "Q-Ship"
C --------- Contract # (For pre-Federation Vessels)
DT -------- Designated Tactical Vessel
FCC ------- Fleet Command Crusier
FF -------- Frigate Flagship/Fast Frigate
FR -------- Freighter (For pre-Federation Vessels)
L --------- Luxury/Civilian
G --------- General Use
SFDD ------ Starfleet Drydock
TP -------- Travel Pod Registry
NAR ------- Naval Auxiliary Resource/Research
NAK ------- Naval Auxiliary Resource - Merchant Marine/Logistics
NFT ------- Non-Federation Transport
NGL ------- Non-Starfleet General-Purpose LinerAs for USS - yes, both United Space Ship and United Star Ship are canon, but recall that Merikus, (in "Bread and Circuses") specified a significant difference between spaceships and starships, with the latter (commanded by Kirk) being far more powerful than the former (commanded by him).
Due to the similarity of their names, the two really are interchangeable in this particular context.
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These are all of the registry number prefix types I've collected over the years. They are Legion, and some are a little... silly:
Code:NCC ------- Naval Construction Contract NCC-FXXXX - Naval Construction Contract/Freighter-Tender NCC-SXXXX - Naval Construction Contract/Support Vessel NCC-GXXXX - Naval Construction Contract/General Use NX -------- Naval Experiment NCO ------- Naval Construction Order (For Alternate-Federation Vessels) NDT ------- Naval Detached Transport NSP ------- Naval Science Program NSX ------- Naval SpecialOps Experiment SNC ------- Shi'ar Naval Contract Q --------- Intelligence "Q-Ship" C --------- Contract # (For pre-Federation Vessels) DT -------- Designated Tactical Vessel FCC ------- Fleet Command Crusier FF -------- Frigate Flagship/Fast Frigate FR -------- Freighter (For pre-Federation Vessels) L --------- Luxury/Civilian G --------- General Use SFDD ------ Starfleet Drydock TP -------- Travel Pod Registry NAR ------- Naval Auxiliary Resource/Research NAK ------- Naval Auxiliary Resource - Merchant Marine/Logistics NFT ------- Non-Federation Transport NGL ------- Non-Starfleet General-Purpose Liner
As for USS - yes, both United Space Ship and United Star Ship are canon, but recall that Merikus, (in "Bread and Circuses") specified a significant difference between spaceships and starships, with the latter (commanded by Kirk) being far more powerful than the former (commanded by him).
Due to the similarity of their names, the two really are interchangeable in this particular context.
Yeah, a lot of them are similar to what I thought. Although I think I have NAR as 'Naval Auxiliary Reserve' potentially?
Didn't think of NSP 'Science Program', so yes, that seems fairly elegant.
There's a variety of freighter prefixes, plus BDT for the S.S Santa Maria, for example
And I've invented a whole new one, inspired by Starfleet Battles - which is NCP, for a patrol/perimetre ship, for a number of designs with awkward registry overlaps (like potentially, the Okinawa, Akula, Akyazi or Jester-classes, or the Orca-class corvette, and so forth)
The alternative being that some registries are just constantly reused, that is (such as NCC-100-300, 500-800, and 1000-1100, and so on)
Non Federation Transport is also pretty intuitive... but then why bother registering it, in the Federation, if so (hmmm)...?
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Cool! Thank you for that - there are a few new ones there that I can add to my collection! And, yes, Reserve does make sense there as well. There's nothing official about literally any of it, so it's as good a guess as any.
As for the non-Fed transport, I always likened it to a ship that is under Starfleet contract to transport cargo through Federation space, and therefore requiring a Federation registry for tracking purposes (in an often-failed attempt to tamp down on contraband smuggling), but from a non-aligned warp-capable world.
They would also potentially have contracts with the other major powers in the quadrant, requiring additional registration. Still subject to the laws of the space in which they operate.
Dukhat brought up "NCV" in another thread for the USS Relativity NCV-474439-G from the VOY episode of the same name. Trying to noodle out what the "V" stands for,,,
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Vessel? Vehicle?
Maybe in that time, the "NCC" designation for Federation starships was just briefly retired. Some things--like the use of primary colors for Starfleet uniforms--go out of fashion for awhile before being brought back.
I generally assume that the registry letters aren't specifically acronyms, but if you needed an acronym, maybe "Naval Cross-temporal Vessel"? Then it would only be for the timeships, and regular ships would still be NCC. By the timeframe of Discovery seasons 3 & 4, time travel is outlawed, so you wouldn't see those types of registries anymore.
I like that for NCV.
"United Systems" sounds like a Silicon Valley tech company.
From the episode:
MERIK: He commands not just a spaceship, Proconsul, but a starship. A very special vessel and crew. I tried for such a command.
I think it's clear that a starship is a specific type of spaceship. After all, any vehicle that travels in space is a spaceship, right?
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