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USS ENTERPRISE HAYNES OWNERS MANUAL (Part 3)
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This book looks more and more like the book we should have got with the Enterprise Manual. Curious what an in house artist and writer will do for ya! I know I'll be getting this for sure.
http://lightsaberrattling.blogspot.com/2011/10/haynes-millennium-falcon-owners.html
http://lightsaberrattling.blogspot.com/2011/10/haynes-millennium-falcon-owners.html
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Yes, that does look better. Mind you they're only dealing with one subject rather than a collection of ships. Also I'm not familiar enough with the Millennium Falcon to know what they may or may not have gotten wrong.
The artist also did the Millennium Falcon 3D book and that is said to be pretty accurate. Also the only reason I keep posting about this book is so those of us who bought or are familiar with the Enterprise book can compare the two books in terms of quality.
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Yes, that does look better. Mind you they're only dealing with one subject rather than a collection of ships. Also I'm not familiar enough with the Millennium Falcon to know what they may or may not have gotten wrong.
It's impossible to get the Falcon "right," since the interiors shown in the film can't fit inside the exterior shown in the film, and the ship is too small to fudge things sufficiently. Robert Brown's compromise layout on his long-defunct "Ship of Riddles" site is probably the best that can be done with the conflicting information.
Yeah, it wasn't "terrible," it just wasn't "very good." And they really needed to make something "very good" in order to kickstart the technical-publishing side of things again.
I had a few conversations a couple of years back with some "publishing world" types, and they were adamant that the reason that this sort of thing is impractical is because the cost of glossy paper and so forth becomes prohibitive. I brought up that the best-selling such books were on regular print-stock paper, mostly in just black-and-white... and that it's INTERESTING AND NEW CONTENT, not "glossy presentation," which sells this sort of thing.
The response was that I "obviously know nothing about publishing." (sigh)
I had a few conversations a couple of years back with some "publishing world" types, and they were adamant that the reason that this sort of thing is impractical is because the cost of glossy paper and so forth becomes prohibitive. I brought up that the best-selling such books were on regular print-stock paper, mostly in just black-and-white... and that it's INTERESTING AND NEW CONTENT, not "glossy presentation," which sells this sort of thing.
The response was that I "obviously know nothing about publishing." (sigh)
It has? I know Amazon Canada has it for release on Nov 3 but it says that it usually ships between 5 and 8 weeks. Normally it says it has in stock when something has been released...oops unless you were referring to the Enterprise manual then yeah it's been out since last winter.
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I'm only responding to Undead. I assume Undead was referring to the Enterprise manual.
thanks to the Way-back machine we can all read about again.
http://web.archive.org/web/20010330140327/http://www.synicon.com.au/sw/mf/falcon.htm
While I was working with Scarlet Street magazine, they switched to a glossy paper after several issues had been published. I asked the editor if that meant they were making enough profit to use the better paper. He told me the glossy they were using was actually cheaper than the the plain stock they'd started with. 
Well, I suppose he may have gotten a really good deal on some surplus glossy paper... but I can't imagine a full-process-color printing job not being orders of magnitude more pricey than basic black-and-white printing under ANY circumstances...
Never heard of "Scarlet Street" magazine... sounds like maybe a motorcycle mag?
Never heard of "Scarlet Street" magazine... sounds like maybe a motorcycle mag?
Sounds like a gothic horror mag to me...
Yep, that's what I was referring to. I was on my way to bed before I posted and had to change the clocks, so I was too tired to read some of the older posts.
Thanks!
Granted it wasn't a full color mag, just a few color spreads. but it surprised the hell outta me too when he told me!
The captain is correct. It was a horror movie/film noir mag published by a friend of mine. Sadly he and the mag have passed on.
A look at the inside of the Hayne's Millennium Falcon book:
http://www.haynes.co.uk/millenniumfalcon/downloads.htm
This is looking like it might be a bit more interesting than the Enterprise book was, IMO.
http://www.haynes.co.uk/millenniumfalcon/downloads.htm
This is looking like it might be a bit more interesting than the Enterprise book was, IMO.