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USS ENTERPRISE HAYNES OWNERS MANUAL (Part 3)

I'm not a hardcore technical buff...so I don't consider myself hung up on the schematics being "accurate" because I don't think it really matters if you're a fan. Sure if you are going to attempt to build a starship then maybe it's a good idea to have accurate information but as far as looking at pretty pictures and admiring the effort that went into them I don't really see the point in slagging something. I know Warped 9 prefers fan made material and quite frankly when it comes right down to it so do I but I'm not going to diss something that someone went to a whole lot of effort to put together, even if they have delayed on several occasions. If you don't like it then you don't like it. I'm still looking forward to it, I'll definitely will voice my opinions if I'm disappointed.
 
BolianAuthor said:
According to the Borders website, it's not available in stores...

http://www.borders.com/online/store/TitleDetail?sku=1451621299
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Yeah, for some reason Borders seems almost reluctant these days to stock anything new on their shelves.

However, the local Barnes and noble had five or six copies on the shelf when I got there yesterday morning.

As for the book itself: not bad, but not great either. Was hoping for something a bit more in-depth technically. But, this is a good source for basic info if you've got nothing else.

Seems to have done a pretty good job of sticking to onscreen data for the most part, but occasionally drops in old "urban-legend" type data like Spock being the first Vulcan in Starfleet.

Wouldn't call it a must-have book, but one that is nice to have if you're a collector.
 
MOAR pictures from the book here:

http://trekmovie.com/2010/05/20/new-illustrations-from-haynes-guide-to-the-uss-enterprise/

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I have been very interested in this book since I first heard about it. Well, I happened upon it when I was at Books-A-Million yesterday. I'm not sure exactly what I was expecting, but that wasn't it. I was quite underwhelmed. The cross-sections were ok, and the bridge renderings were pretty good, but I didn't see anything that actually made it worth buying.
 
I had the false assumption that the book would only contain cutaway drawings like that, and not renders of CG models that don't even look that good.
 
How are they awful exactly though? I'm interested in hearing actual criticism other than just blanket statements that support someone's already biased opinion about the book. I thought we've already seen that shuttle pic before.
 
Here's one: in terms of observational accuracy with regard to the source material, the illustrations in this book are not an overall improvement over previous publications and in notable cases are worse.
 
Admiral_Young said:
How are they awful exactly though? I'm interested in hearing actual criticism other than just blanket statements that support someone's already biased opinion about the book. I thought we've already seen that shuttle pic before.
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The CG-models of C and D they use look only superficially like the models they are based on. They are painfully low poly and just look... awful.

I too had hoped there would be more of these cutaway drawings (those that are in the book aren't actually 'accurate' or all that masterfully done, but at least they are somewhat interesting).
 
I saw a copy at B&N today and looked through it. I was actually pleasantly surprised. The CG renderings of the D in particular look great, and they went into quite a bit of detail on the D. They certainly could have done a lot worse.
 
Nah... it's worth getting just for the artwork alone, even if some of the info is off... it's still a nice book to enjoy on a visual level.
 
I work with one of the artists from the book and I know first hand that Okuda had a massive imput giving stills from the show and sending anything back he was not happy with marks.
 
Well, the only thing I saw in the book that I personally think would royally miff a lot of the TOS purists out there, is that they depict the TOS-era photon torpedoes as being physical weapons in a casing, like the TMP and DS9-era torpedoes. IMO, that was something Okuda should have noticed or commented on, but oh, well... like I said, I like the book just for the pretty pictures, lol.
 
BolianAuthor said:
Well, the only thing I saw in the book that I personally think would royally miff a lot of the TOS purists out there, is that they depict the TOS-era photon torpedoes as being physical weapons in a casing, like the TMP and DS9-era torpedoes. IMO, that was something Okuda should have noticed or commented on, but oh, well... like I said, I like the book just for the pretty pictures, lol.
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Was there ever anything solid to really establish them as being energy projectiles, as opposed to cased ammunition? I'm curious because I know the idea was floating around and the notion of actual torpedo cases wasn't introduced until TWOK, but I'm not sure if there was any particular authoritative work on their being caseless. Just wondering. :)
 
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