Spoilers USS Discovery (What would you do differently?)
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I've always liked this interpretation.
http://www.galacticempire.org/2016/03/star-trek-uss-edward-teller-nx-27cln.html
http://www.galacticempire.org/2016/03/star-trek-uss-edward-teller-nx-27cln.html
I definitely see that in the shape of the secondary hull too.
And while I appreciate some of the fixes, have the same basic problem with all of these. The secondary hull is screwing up all the proportions. Not only does the shape clash with the rest instead of flowing from a common design, the saucer is far too small for the scale of the rest of the ship, looks tacked on.
I'm still waiting to see what comes up as far as a more definitive design for the ship, if she'll be revised more as filming gets closer.
Wasn't Fuller supposed to announce more today about the series?
Wasn't Fuller supposed to announce more today about the series?
You are right, there is a slight resemblance. I wonder if it was done intentionally though. Wasn't the Baton Rouge a 2230's ship?
Yeah, that's pretty much it. For more information:
http://losttrek.weebly.com
The two elements I hate most are the overall Steampunk-edness of it (with its grills on the saucer and nacelles and so many details), and the low-polygon-looking triangular stardrive section. Looooaathe them. Not the attempt at something McQuarrie like (wasn't really on board with his Ent anyway), just the overly simple execution. It should NOT look like something I put together in my garage, I don't care how nostalgia-heavy this series is going to be.
I don't care about the proportions because I'm guessing there's some reason for the giant secondary hull (if not, then WTF?), and I might be on board (for difference's sake) with the same-level stardrive and nacelles. We're throwing out the line of sight rules I guess (I'll miss them, despite just a little raising of the nacelles would fix it), but another thing I like is the saucer being Galaxy-like above the rest of the ship.
I don't care about the proportions because I'm guessing there's some reason for the giant secondary hull (if not, then WTF?), and I might be on board (for difference's sake) with the same-level stardrive and nacelles. We're throwing out the line of sight rules I guess (I'll miss them, despite just a little raising of the nacelles would fix it), but another thing I like is the saucer being Galaxy-like above the rest of the ship.
If you look at Archer's NX-01 Enterprise on the one hand, and Pike's/Kirk's NCC-1701 Enterprise on the other hand, would the Discovery we see in the teaser somehow fit in the middle? Yes and no.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but NX-01 has impulse engines mounted on catamaran/wing thingies away from the saucer, so that's not too much of a leap. The swept-back nature of the nacelle-wings seems to dovetail with NX-01 as well. The texture of the Discovery's hull isn't quite NX-01, isn't quite Kelvin, and isn't "JJprise" or "TOSprise" either. It's off on its own, but it looks like it could be related.
Discovery's overall side profile looks a little too similar to TNG's Enterprise-D. Not identical, but the curves do remind me of it. Discovery's front profile looks plausible "front the neck up" but those nacelles and tub-like secondary hull don't look right at all. If NX-01, Kelvin, and Constitution all have cylindrical nacelles, so should Discovery. Again, too TNGish. I don't see why the main fuselage of the secondary hull couldn't be a rough cylinder. It wouldn't have to be just like Kelvin or Constitution. The nacelle-wings could simply join with the sides of the cylinder. And why can't Discovery have a hybrid dish like what Vektor did with his "prime alternative" Enterprise?
Of course, YMMV. There's nothing clearly defined here. We don't know the overall size of Discovery, her mission profile, or "when" and "how" Discovery is supposed to be a part of Star Trek. Time will tell.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but NX-01 has impulse engines mounted on catamaran/wing thingies away from the saucer, so that's not too much of a leap. The swept-back nature of the nacelle-wings seems to dovetail with NX-01 as well. The texture of the Discovery's hull isn't quite NX-01, isn't quite Kelvin, and isn't "JJprise" or "TOSprise" either. It's off on its own, but it looks like it could be related.
Discovery's overall side profile looks a little too similar to TNG's Enterprise-D. Not identical, but the curves do remind me of it. Discovery's front profile looks plausible "front the neck up" but those nacelles and tub-like secondary hull don't look right at all. If NX-01, Kelvin, and Constitution all have cylindrical nacelles, so should Discovery. Again, too TNGish. I don't see why the main fuselage of the secondary hull couldn't be a rough cylinder. It wouldn't have to be just like Kelvin or Constitution. The nacelle-wings could simply join with the sides of the cylinder. And why can't Discovery have a hybrid dish like what Vektor did with his "prime alternative" Enterprise?
Of course, YMMV. There's nothing clearly defined here. We don't know the overall size of Discovery, her mission profile, or "when" and "how" Discovery is supposed to be a part of Star Trek. Time will tell.
The triangular hull is not unheard of in Earth/early Federation starships:
SS Emmette:
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/scans/drex/emmette-views.jpg
Warp Delta/Ganges-class:
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/scans/drex/warp-delta-views.jpg
So it must have its merits to be used again in the Discovery. And we know it was used again in this configuration in the future.
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/schematics/phaseii-spacedock.jpg
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/qualor/qualor2.jpg
Yes, but we've never seen the combination of a triangular hull with a saucer as a hero ship; only as a tiny background ship.
Jeez Forbin, as usual your design is heads and shoulders above what we saw from the actual show creators. They ought to just hire you.
There were two stody models:
This was used in Spacedock
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net...ision/latest?cb=20091211165258&path-prefix=en
This was used for Wolf 35?Qualor, etc
https://liveauctioneers-res.cloudin...to,fl_lossy/v2/img/1034/22122/7702957_1_l.jpg
http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net...ision/latest?cb=20091211165956&path-prefix=en
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/wolf359/phaseii-study-schematic.gif
So there is a wide secondary hull option--and a more narrow option.
This was used in Spacedock
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net...ision/latest?cb=20091211165258&path-prefix=en
This was used for Wolf 35?Qualor, etc
https://liveauctioneers-res.cloudin...to,fl_lossy/v2/img/1034/22122/7702957_1_l.jpg
http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net...ision/latest?cb=20091211165956&path-prefix=en
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/wolf359/phaseii-study-schematic.gif
So there is a wide secondary hull option--and a more narrow option.
So what? For the first 21 years of the franchise we hadn't seen a "hero" ship with an oval saucer. Then we saw one. Now he have plenty.
