USS Discovery in TOS?

[Khan 2.0]

has this a known thing yet ?
https://kimikomura19.wordpress.com/2016/08/25/reference-to-u-s-s-discovery-in-tos/

 

[C.E. Evans]

Kirk was talking about the discovery of an alien planet (Gothos).

 

[Dukhat]

has this a known thing yet ?
https://kimikomura19.wordpress.com/2016/08/25/reference-to-u-s-s-discovery-in-tos/

Er, yes, there's been debate about this for some time, even before the new show.

Typical consensus? It was just poor grammar usage, since there's no indication that the Enterprise was in communication with another ship at all. Kirk should have said, "Uhura, notify [Starfleet of] the discovery on subspace radio."

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

As I said on the other thread and elsewhere, retcon. http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/...y#Hero_ship_reference_in_The_Squire_of_Gothos

 

[1001001]

Where is @Dennis and his "nope" image when I need him?

 

[Dukhat]

As I said on the other thread and elsewhere, retcon. http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/...y#Hero_ship_reference_in_The_Squire_of_Gothos

So now we're using bad grammar and out-of-context statements to justify stuff as retcons? True Trekkies, we are.

 

[Kor]

*grooan*

There is nothing within the context of the episode, or in all of TOS, to suggest that Kirk intended to contact a ship called "Discovery" and apprise them of their situation.

Kor

 

[Ovation]

True. But in the grand scheme of overreaches Trek fans are willing to make to "make things fit", this one seems harmless enough, non?

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Er, yes, there's been debate about this for some time, even before the new show.

Typical consensus? It was just poor grammar usage, since there's no indication that the Enterprise was in communication with another ship at all. Kirk should have said, "Uhura, notify [Starfleet of] the discovery on subspace radio."

... or simply "Uhura, report the discovery on subspace radio."

 

[Ovation]

Or "note the discovery" instead of notify.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Or "note the discovery" instead of notify.

Oh, there you go.

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

Or "note the discovery" instead of notify.

Well, apparently both words can be used interchangeably.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Well, apparently both words can be used interchangeably.

Which two words?

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

Which two words?

"Note" http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/note and "notify". https://www.google.ca/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=notify

 

[Kemaiku]

The Discovery may not even still be in service by 2267, and the new series would have to run 12 years to confirm it.

 

[Warped9]

has this a known thing yet ?
https://kimikomura19.wordpress.com/2016/08/25/reference-to-u-s-s-discovery-in-tos/

 

[CorporalCaptain]

"Note" http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/note and "notify". https://www.google.ca/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=notify

No, "note" and "notify" cannot be used interchangeably as verbs. The direct object of "notify" is who is being told. The direct object of "note" is what is being told.

@Dukhat indicated the problem upthread:

Typical consensus? It was just poor grammar usage, since there's no indication that the Enterprise was in communication with another ship at all. Kirk should have said, "Uhura, notify [Starfleet of] the discovery on subspace radio."

 

[Timo]

Indeed, the grammar is actually good in the sense that Kirk would definitely want to notify a specific party, not just cast the information on the subspace winds (like Archer or Picard in a bout of terminal altruism might do).

Further, Kirk never informs other starships of anything, so we already have a good and correct idea of who is going to be notified...

(Of course, "notify" might also be a neologism on "turning something into a note". Perhaps subspace has the equivalent of post-it walls, with starships always leaving random bits of information there?)

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Marsden]

This is funny because the Discovery is now being displayed where the Enterprise was and Enterprise was moved to New York City. I wouldn't have looked that up if I didn't see this thread.

 

[Noname Given]

Kirk was talking about the discovery of an alien planet (Gothos).

^^^
This. Seriously, I can't believe ANYONE would think Kirk is asking Uhura to notify another named Starship in that scene from the dialog. Kirk is essentially saying: Put out a notification on subspace radio that a new Planet has been discovered here.