USS Aventine

[Cobalt Frost]

Woo hoo!!

 

[varek]

I must confess to never liking the Intrepid-class bridge, as it had too much wasted space.

Whereas I felt it was inefficiently designed with too many different levels and railings and whatnot. And I dislike the trend to move away from the simple E-D-style bridge back to one more cluttered with blinky lights and metal and techno-stuff. The E-D design reflected the idea that technology had advanced so far as to become more invisible, less obtrusive -- and that far fewer people were needed to operate it. Later designs feel like a huge step backward in technological sophistication.

Reminds me of the fanon Proteus Class. (That's also what I see when I picture the Aventine )

Ugh... personally, I'm getting tired of streamlined starships. Space is a vacuum -- there's no need for streamlining. It's a purely superficial way of making a ship look "fast" and "sleek" to the viewer's eye. My preference would be for ships that look less like aircraft or darts and more like something that's a practical design for a vessel operating in weightless vacuum. That's what Matt Jefferies gave us with the original Enterprise, and nothing since has lived up to that brilliant, elegantly simple design.

I seem to recall reading (I believe it was in the Star Trek: The Magazine Technical Guide for the Intrepid Class) that the streamlining of the ships had something to do with the variable geometry warp nacelles. It worked to help stem the subspace damage that was discovered in TNG Season Seven for high warp travel.

Ugh... personally, I'm getting tired of streamlined starships. Space is a vacuum -- there's no need for streamlining. It's a purely superficial way of making a ship look "fast" and "sleek" to the viewer's eye. My preference would be for ships that look less like aircraft or darts and more like something that's a practical design for a vessel operating in weightless vacuum. That's what Matt Jefferies gave us with the original Enterprise, and nothing since has lived up to that brilliant, elegantly simple design.

What about vessels designed to land on planets, meaning having to go atmospheric? They have to be at least partially streamlined to glide through an atmosphere like the Intrepid- and Nova-classes were designed to do. As for starships that don't need to go skinny dipping through the atmosphere, it is aesthetically pleasing to have a "sleek" ship. Would a ship designed more like the battlestars of BSG look better to you, Chris?

There is elegance in simplicity, which I apply to the bridge design. I like the D-style, with chairs for the Captain, XO and (empathic) Diplomat. And, the variable geometry warp nacelles and atmospheric travel would probably require functional streamlining. I kind of like the arrowhead design for the saucer section. Although it may not be possible, what if you combined that design with an Oberth-style body? The Oberth was the coolest design, although it was probably the most impractical one. And, please don't abandon the Observation Lounge, behind the Main Bridge! Could all these variables be combined into a design for the Vesta-class ships?

 

[ares93]

I read on his website that new pics will see the daylight sometime in october.
you know what the worst thing about that is? i wont get zero sum game until mid november... i think i'm gonna lock myself in a dark room to not be able to look at the pics. or else, i'll die of excitement during the wait for typhon...

 

[Defcon]

I read on his website that new pics will see the daylight sometime in october.

http://mark-rademaker.blogspot.com:

In the (to be released) October issue of Star Trek magazine there is an article (quite extensive article even) about the U.S.S. Aventine. I got interviewed by Marco Palmieri, mostly talking about the work involved to design the ship. It features quite a lot of build up images that where not shown before, as well as some new orthographic views and a new beauty shot that is also used as a "miniposter".

 

[ares93]

^ goddamn. why a magazine that you cant get a hold of in europe? (and no, britain isnt europe...) love the pic though. albeit small, but still nice

 

[Xavier_Storma]

^ goddamn. why a magazine that you cant get a hold of in europe? (and no, britain isnt europe...) love the pic though. albeit small, but still nice

You can! Just join an official fan club. Germany turned their fanzines into a translated version of the mag!

The Aventine is beautiful! A logical evolution of the familiar design. Too bad you and Sean were not allowed to design the Star Trek Online ships which just look like cheap kitbashes of AMT models.

 

[captcalhoun]

you could ask a british member to buy you a copy and ship to you at cost...

 

[Csalem]

^ goddamn. why a magazine that you cant get a hold of in europe? (and no, britain isnt europe...) love the pic though. albeit small, but still nice

Can buy it in Ireland, and we're in Europe.

 

[DimesDan]

And the UK is also a member of Europe and a European nation!

 

[ares93]

And the UK is also a member of Europe and a European nation!

oh, c'mon! is there a global anti irony movement this week or something? every ironic remark i've written this week has backfired...

 

[darkwing_duck1]

At least we're finally getting orthos...

 

[fleetcaptain]

Yes I got my copy last night and read and looked at it this am. Loved the art and the changes Mark made. Still falling in love with this new lady.

 

[darkwing_duck1]

I couldn't get too good a look at the sample image, but it looks like he changed out the "Defiant-ish" wedge prow for a more Ent-E/Voyager saucer...is that correct?

 

[Corran Horn]

Thought it killed me to switch away from September's great shot (pre-refit Enterprise) the Aventine is featured for this month in the SotL calendar.

 

[JD]

Yeah, and it is a nice picture.

 

[SicOne]

Er...not to nitpick (yeah, right), but how did we arrive at a mass of 321,630 tons?

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Are we going to 'officially' find out what the Aventine's bridge will look like?

 

[ares93]

Are we going to 'officially' find out what the Aventine's bridge will look like?

i'm sure we will. but when is another matter. since Mr. Rademaker has finished the ship now, maybe he'll do some interiors as well.

 

[SicOne]

Have they talked about the Aventine over in Trek Tech as well, or is all "uncanon" ship discussion done here in Trek Lit?

 

[ares93]

Have they talked about the Aventine over in Trek Tech as well, or is all "uncanon" ship discussion done here in Trek Lit?

some consider the treklit books soft canon, but the opinions differ quite a bit. truthfully, its safer to say that the aventine is uncanon.