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USA to delay digital TV switch

This hasn't been passed yet. As of RIGHT NOW, it's still 2/17/09. Although passage of the delay seems likely.
 
According to the stats I've been hearing, the number of unprepared Americans is 6 million (more or less). I am definitely in the "pull the plug" camp; however, Democrats, being who they are, will claim to be concerned with those "poor Americans who aren't prepared".

Hell, I remember back in the day when being poor meant you either didn't have a TV or if you did it was a 13" black and white set. Nowadays, being "poor" means you either have basic cable or at least two televisions. :rolleyes:
 
For those who have to get the converter boxes.....You have some means to log onto the internet but dont have cable tv yet?????:confused::confused: Most people I know have both, neither at all or just cable tv. Unless you run down to the library to use the internet or a friends.

Do you guys who need the converter box have the internet on dial-up???? If you do why not get rid of the home phone??? Get a cable/internet subscription (about $60-70 a month) and buy a cell phone,($40 a month) that way you wont have important calls go to your answering machines while logging onto Trektoday.:lol:
 
http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/28/digital-tv-transition-delays-fails-to-pass-in-house/

In an absolutely shocking move, the United States House of Representatives has failed to pass the digital TV transition delay bill that was all but certain to fly through just days ago. The bill needed two-thirds of the votes of the House under "special rules adopted for the vote," and reportedly, the vote was just 258 to 168 in favor of changing the date.
No f-ing way...politicians showing a bit of common sense??
 
For those who have to get the converter boxes.....You have some means to log onto the internet but dont have cable tv yet?????:confused::confused: Most people I know have both, neither at all or just cable tv. Unless you run down to the library to use the internet or a friends.

Do you guys who need the converter box have the internet on dial-up???? If you do why not get rid of the home phone??? Get a cable/internet subscription (about $60-70 a month) and buy a cell phone,($40 a month) that way you wont have important calls go to your answering machines while logging onto Trektoday.:lol:
So you think the people who can't afford a 1 off $50 to buy a converter can afford $100 a month or more?
 
For those who have to get the converter boxes.....You have some means to log onto the internet but dont have cable tv yet?????:confused::confused: Most people I know have both, neither at all or just cable tv. Unless you run down to the library to use the internet or a friends.

Do you guys who need the converter box have the internet on dial-up???? If you do why not get rid of the home phone??? Get a cable/internet subscription (about $60-70 a month) and buy a cell phone,($40 a month) that way you wont have important calls go to your answering machines while logging onto Trektoday.:lol:
So you think the people who can't afford a 1 off $50 to buy a converter can afford $100 a month or more?

Not what I was saying. But they have access to the internet. Why not get a cable/internet package and a cell phone?? get rid of the home phone. If tv is so important.There are many other things you can cut back. I dont make a heck of alot right now but I have Cable/Internet and a cell phone. I also control my spending on things like dvds, coffee, magazines etc.
 
For those who have to get the converter boxes.....You have some means to log onto the internet but dont have cable tv yet?????:confused::confused: Most people I know have both, neither at all or just cable tv. Unless you run down to the library to use the internet or a friends.

Do you guys who need the converter box have the internet on dial-up???? If you do why not get rid of the home phone??? Get a cable/internet subscription (about $60-70 a month) and buy a cell phone,($40 a month) that way you wont have important calls go to your answering machines while logging onto Trektoday.:lol:
So you think the people who can't afford a 1 off $50 to buy a converter can afford $100 a month or more?

Not what I was saying. But they have access to the internet. Why not get a cable/internet package and a cell phone?? get rid of the home phone. If tv is so important.There are many other things you can cut back. I dont make a heck of alot right now but I have Cable/Internet and a cell phone. I also control my spending on things like dvds, coffee, magazines etc.
But again, if you can get a converter for $50 why would you fork out double that on a monthly basis? Dial up and land line can't cost $100 a month, surely?
 
So you think the people who can't afford a 1 off $50 to buy a converter can afford $100 a month or more?

Not what I was saying. But they have access to the internet. Why not get a cable/internet package and a cell phone?? get rid of the home phone. If tv is so important.There are many other things you can cut back. I dont make a heck of alot right now but I have Cable/Internet and a cell phone. I also control my spending on things like dvds, coffee, magazines etc.
But again, if you can get a converter for $50 why would you fork out double that on a monthly basis? Dial up and land line can't cost $100 a month, surely?


How much is a land line phone About $40 amonth? An extra $60 for perfectly good working tv, uninterupted phone service and faster internet ALL for an additional $60 a month. Cutting out one indulgence a month, can make that up very quickly.

EX. I was spending $10.50+ a week on coffee. I discontinued drinking it and am now saving an additonal $42 a month. I also eat out twice a week and no longer buy a soda. Additional savings of $16+ a month.
 
Not what I was saying. But they have access to the internet. Why not get a cable/internet package and a cell phone?? get rid of the home phone. If tv is so important.There are many other things you can cut back. I dont make a heck of alot right now but I have Cable/Internet and a cell phone. I also control my spending on things like dvds, coffee, magazines etc.
But again, if you can get a converter for $50 why would you fork out double that on a monthly basis? Dial up and land line can't cost $100 a month, surely?


How much is a land line phone About $40 amonth? An extra $60 for perfectly good working tv, uninterupted phone service and faster internet ALL for an additional $60 a month. Cutting out one indulgence a month, can make that up very quickly.

EX. I was spending $10.50+ a week on coffee. I discontinued drinking it and am now saving an additonal $42 a month. I also eat out twice a week and no longer buy a soda. Additional savings of $16+ a month.
I don't know, I'm not an American, I do know dial up costs more than adsl in this city, I know you can get cable, broadband and phoneline for £30 per month in other cities, so you're probably right you could get it for less than a landline and dial up. But some people don't want the expense of a monthly out going when they can just pay a one off payment and get HD/digital TV.
 
For those who have to get the converter boxes.....You have some means to log onto the internet but dont have cable tv yet?????:confused::confused: Most people I know have both, neither at all or just cable tv. Unless you run down to the library to use the internet or a friends.

I cannot get cable TV where I live. There is not enough population density to warrant the cable company to string their lines out my way. Why is this so hard for you to understand? Some people are just "too rural". I am also beyond the reach of DSL as well. I have no desire to pay for satellite, especially what I endured when I had satellite Internet. I don't watch that much television, so if I lose the signal -- oh well.

Do you guys who need the converter box have the internet on dial-up???? If you do why not get rid of the home phone??? Get a cable/internet subscription (about $60-70 a month) and buy a cell phone,($40 a month) that way you wont have important calls go to your answering machines while logging onto Trektoday.:lol:
I have a 3G WiFi connection from AT&T that works well on my desktop. It's basically wireless broadband, which enabled me to cut the landline and use my cell phone as my primary telephone. Hell, I only used the landline when I had dial-up anyway. I get a discount on the phone services for being a Federal Employee, and with Internet my combined cost is ~$94/month. :techman:
 
http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/28/digital-tv-transition-delays-fails-to-pass-in-house/

In an absolutely shocking move, the United States House of Representatives has failed to pass the digital TV transition delay bill that was all but certain to fly through just days ago. The bill needed two-thirds of the votes of the House under "special rules adopted for the vote," and reportedly, the vote was just 258 to 168 in favor of changing the date.
No f-ing way...politicians showing a bit of common sense??

So this whole thread was for naught. :lol:
 
Hell, I remember back in the day when being poor meant you either didn't have a TV or if you did it was a 13" black and white set. Nowadays, being "poor" means you either have basic cable or at least two televisions. :rolleyes:

There was a time when owning a computer meant you were a nuclear research laboratory too.
 
For those who have to get the converter boxes.....You have some means to log onto the internet but dont have cable tv yet?????:confused::confused: Most people I know have both, neither at all or just cable tv. Unless you run down to the library to use the internet or a friends.

I cannot get cable TV where I live. There is not enough population density to warrant the cable company to string their lines out my way. Why is this so hard for you to understand? Some people are just "too rural". I am also beyond the reach of DSL as well. I have no desire to pay for satellite, especially what I endured when I had satellite Internet. I don't watch that much television, so if I lose the signal -- oh well.

Do you guys who need the converter box have the internet on dial-up???? If you do why not get rid of the home phone??? Get a cable/internet subscription (about $60-70 a month) and buy a cell phone,($40 a month) that way you wont have important calls go to your answering machines while logging onto Trektoday.:lol:
I have a 3G WiFi connection from AT&T that works well on my desktop. It's basically wireless broadband, which enabled me to cut the landline and use my cell phone as my primary telephone. Hell, I only used the landline when I had dial-up anyway. I get a discount on the phone services for being a Federal Employee, and with Internet my combined cost is ~$94/month. :techman:


Well I didnt know you were to rural, so it wasnt hard to understand once I knew that.:lol::lol: I guess there in no choice for you than right now,unless you try satellite.But if you dont watch much tv its not worth getting.

As for others are you ruralas well or just dont think you can afford cable??
 
For those who have to get the converter boxes.....You have some means to log onto the internet but dont have cable tv yet?????:confused::confused: Most people I know have both, neither at all or just cable tv. Unless you run down to the library to use the internet or a friends.

I have cable, however each TV you have cable for cost more on your monthly bill. Then the cable boxes have to be rented, and all these costs add up for the more TVs you have. So the bedroom TV doesn't and needs a box.

My grandpa needs a coupon because he has cable in three rooms, but not on the porch, because he only sits out there 4 months a year. Now he won't be able to watch Judge Judy. :lol:

I have many relatives that don't have cable, and still have the internet (There is this thing called dial up), so open your mind out besides the little gang you hang out with.
 
I have cable, however each TV you have cable for cost more on your monthly bill.
not with any reputable cable company these days. You pay the cable fee, and they wire up a tv, and you wire the rest if you want it, or you don't. It's not the 80's, where you needed a cable converter box for every tv.

Then the cable boxes have to be rented, and all these costs add up for the more TVs you have. So the bedroom TV doesn't and needs a box.
Only if you want digital cable in that other room. Or a DVR. For regular cable, you can just plug the wire into the tv, and you get the normal 80 or so channels.

My grandpa needs a coupon because he has cable in three rooms, but not on the porch, because he only sits out there 4 months a year. Now he won't be able to watch Judge Judy. :lol:
needs a converter, perhaps, but the coupon just defrays the cost. If Judge Judy with worth a onetime fee of $50, he can have it. Or, he can spend $10 on RG6 cabling, and get about 80 channels on the porch for free.

I have many relatives that don't have cable, and still have the internet (There is this thing called dial up), so open your mind out besides the little gang you hang out with.
An excellent end to a post filled with incorrect information!

Very glad that this bill failed. Would have cost a lot of money, while solving absolutely NOTHING.
 
I have Charter which is a scumbag of a company, you need a box for every TV. Plus there is only three outlets, and one is used for the internet.

And my info is EXACTLY correct to my situation, considering you don't know me at all you wouldn't have a clue what's going on!
 
Adding an outlet is just a matter of running more cable, which can be done easily by yourself. If you can't add a physical outlet yourself, can just run the wire to the tv without going through a wall. Just takes cable and a splitter, which costs about $5 for a decent one. I've done it myself, for both my house, my parents, and my old apartment.

As far as boxes being required, still pretty sure that's no longer correct, unless you've kept your original box and contract from 1985. TVs now all are cable-ready, meaning you don't need the box. Only things you need a cable box for are Digital cable, on-demand services/PPV, and DVR. If you're paying for a box to watch tv in your bedroom, you're making a mistake. Likewise, I haven't seen a per-tv charge for cable since I was in charge of the cable for my Frat house, and even then, that charge went away when we upgraded the main tv to digital, and the rest got basic for free with no boxes...

Not knowing you doesn't mean I can't have a pretty good feel for what are basic practices for an industry. And since I've got a TV in my bedroom with no box, that kinda brings your facts into question.
 
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