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US version Of Torchword in development!

so why is it that when BBC WW saved Primeval, it ended up on ITV & the BBCWW channel Watch, and not on the BBC?

I don't know, you tell me! Where was the BBCs "first right of refusal" on that one?
hence the worry, and why the BBC needs to be informed in this from the get go.

As for why there would be a Torchwood: USA, if you recall Yvoone at Torchwood London still talked about the empire, so I think in the past Torchwood has taken a different view on the empire than the rest of the world, plus if you are a group of people searching for alien artefacts and stopping alien invasions, can you really afford to ignore the USA simply because it was never part of the empire?

Yes I get that, but would this Torchwood be a show about an organisation loyal to the British crown? It seems unlikely.
 
I've said many times that Torchwood is much more to typical US tastes than Doctor Who. We like stoic cops in SUV's over spastic guys running around in phone booths.

It sounds like this is going to be some kind of remake like the US version of Life on Mars. And this can not happen because it doesn't make a lick of sense. Making a US version of Torchwood which is a spin-off of Doctor Who is like making an UK version of Stargate Atlantis which is a spin-off of Stargate SG-1. You can't a remake of a spin-off without making a remake of the original show and you should only do that if your remake concept is good enough.

I don't see any problem with it, it's like saying you can't enjoy Frasier without having seen Cheers. Torchwood really doesn't need Doctor Who to work IMO.

It might even benefit from the freedom of not really having to link in with Who.
 
I don't know, you tell me! Where was the BBCs "first right of refusal" on that one?
hence the worry, and why the BBC needs to be informed in this from the get go.

As for why there would be a Torchwood: USA, if you recall Yvoone at Torchwood London still talked about the empire, so I think in the past Torchwood has taken a different view on the empire than the rest of the world, plus if you are a group of people searching for alien artefacts and stopping alien invasions, can you really afford to ignore the USA simply because it was never part of the empire?

Yes I get that, but would this Torchwood be a show about an organisation loyal to the British crown? It seems unlikely.
in its own way Torchwood India was still loyal to the crown*, no reason why a Torchwood Base in the USA staffed by Torchwood employees (who are going to be mostly Brits, and US citizens they have turned, which by itself is a storyline) no reason they would not be loyal to the Torchwood command structure, hell people are loyal to a companys management chain for money, no reason it cant be the case here as well.

* to be fair that is because it was the same people as when it was shut down.

the question is Torchwood always gave the impression that Torchwood Cardiff is the majorality of what was left of Torchwood, to omit a US base that Jack had command over seems odd, Jack would seem to have command as he didnt report to anyone, other than politicians and the Queen herself. He would know of Torchwood USA.

Maybe he just sets up Torchwood USA when he arrives back on Earth, nothing more than that.

However fair point the US auidence would expect it to be loyal to the US President not the Queen, maybe Jack saves Obamas life or something.
 
If BBCWW is doing anything with a BBC property, then the BBC knows about it, and that's the final word on it, as far as I can see.
 
I really hate it when they do "US versions" of British shows. I mean, come on, can't they handle the vocabulary or what? It's like Life on Mars. Pathetic. It's not like Britain is a different planet.

The difference here is that unlike Life on Mars and other shows, all of the people who made the UK version are going to be making the US version.

The distinction is astounding.

Yes, but I still wonder why they feel compelled to make a US version of other British shows. Why? My conclusion is that they a) can't handle the swearing on tv, and b) don't understand the accent (when Brits don't tone it down for Hollywood) or the slang. Of course, I might be wrong.
 
If BBCWW is doing anything with a BBC property, then the BBC knows about it, and that's the final word on it, as far as I can see.
im not sure if it has the final word, as I said BBCWW and BBC are not exactly in the same office, is a more complex relationship than that.
 
Different countries have different markets and different tastes.

That's why (for example) Coke from the US, Coke from Mexico, and Coke from Dubai all have different formulas.

The Office (US) is a HUGE hit here, but The Office (UK) is basically unknown (and in my opinion, not as good). I think that The Office is the only show every adapted from a UK version that was BETTER than it's UK counterpart, although some might argue that Three's Company (from the UK's Man About the House) and Sanford and Son (from the UK's Steptoe and Son) might also count in that regard.
 
I really hate it when they do "US versions" of British shows. I mean, come on, can't they handle the vocabulary or what? It's like Life on Mars. Pathetic. It's not like Britain is a different planet.

The difference here is that unlike Life on Mars and other shows, all of the people who made the UK version are going to be making the US version.

The distinction is astounding.

Yes, but I still wonder why they feel compelled to make a US version of other British shows. Why? My conclusion is that they a) can't handle the swearing on tv, and b) don't understand the accent (when Brits don't tone it down for Hollywood) or the slang. Of course, I might be wrong.

There was also too much sex on Torchwood, especially of the homosexual kind... and especially involving the lead character.
 
The difference here is that unlike Life on Mars and other shows, all of the people who made the UK version are going to be making the US version.

The distinction is astounding.

Yes, but I still wonder why they feel compelled to make a US version of other British shows. Why? My conclusion is that they a) can't handle the swearing on tv, and b) don't understand the accent (when Brits don't tone it down for Hollywood) or the slang. Of course, I might be wrong.

There was also too much sex on Torchwood, especially of the homosexual kind... and especially involving the lead character.
that is a good point.
 
They could hardly make it any worse.

(comment ignores Children of Earth for convenience)

I was going to respond to the "thars 2 much gays" comments above, but meh.
 
That's tragic, this kind of prejudice. I used to live in America, and in my opinion, no chance in hell that a show like Life on Mars, or a film like The Boat that Rocked could be made for the mainstream public. It's not the people's fault, but boy, censorship is a bitch. It's like "god-damn" being bleeped out of live performances on mtv. What a fucking tragedy. *shakes head*
 
That's tragic, this kind of prejudice. I used to live in America, and in my opinion, no chance in hell that a show like Life on Mars, or a film like The Boat that Rocked could be made for the mainstream public. It's not the people's fault, but boy, censorship is a bitch. It's like "god-damn" being bleeped out of live performances on mtv. What a fucking tragedy. *shakes head*

Well, with Season 1 of Torchwood, it wasn't so much a prejudice thing as it was just over-the-top. The show is supposed to be about people fighting aliens, not about everybody being gay and horny. Gay is fine. Horny is fine. But good lord, it's just unrealistic for every character to constantly be gay and horny! :lol:
 
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I know what you're saying, but the show is supposed to be character driven drama as much as it is about fighting aliens. ;)
 
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I know what you're saying, but the show is supposed to be character driven drama as much as it is about fighting aliens. ;)

That's fine, but there is more to character drama than lots and lots of sex. I just found it distracting...especially Owen. "I love the way your face looks when you cum."

Um...okay, this seems like a private moment. I'm gonna go. :p
 
if John Barrowman is cast, it will be hard to see this as anything other than Torchwood S4, god the BBC better have first refusal deal in place with BBCWW for this kind of sitution.

Then again, from how I read it, it seems Barrowman may only be involved in the pilot. Perhaps as a way to pass the torch (no pun intended)...
that is one way to read it, would still make this show part of the Whoverse however, which is my worry.

Can't see why you'd think that - Robert Llewellyn was in one of the Red Dwarf US pilots and that sure as hell never became associated with real Red Dwarf, let alone become some canonical element of it.

Clearly Torchwood US is just the next logical step in the RTD gay agenda(TM) - first Cardiff/London, then the USA, then THE WHOLE WORLD.:rolleyes:

All signs point to this idea being terrible. Kill it with fire.
 
wamdue said:
that is one way to read it, would still make this show part of the Whoverse however, which is my worry.

Why would you think that? What kind of botched logic is that?
 
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