Upcoming Productions for June/July/August

[Captain Randy Hall]

Let me start by saying that I don't mean to put anyone down with this, but I want it to be as simple and easy as I can make it. Also, I fear that some folks just go to the list to see if their production is in the week's entry, but I do my best to follow a pattern that I think works in the fans' favor without overwhelming the film makers.

Let's look at two entries from a recent Friday listing.
>>RECENT RELEASES
Star Trek Defiant audio series
Episode #47: “Listening”
http://www.pendantaudio.com/defiant.php

Starship Farragut Animated
"The Needs of the Many"
http://www.farragut-animated.com/needs.html<<

Since this thread is as forward-looking as I can make it, I start off with the date. That doesn't have to be so much of a struggle. Some of the big dogs (including Romulan Wars, it seems) can give me a specific date when their effort will be available online. But I realize that's a luxury many fan film makers don't have. So just try and narrow it down as much as you can.

If you don't have the day, give us the week, and if that's not certain, the month within the June-July-August period. Let's use Lost Frontier for an example. Let's say that you expect to have one of your 18 (!!!!!!!!!!!!!) episodes ready but aren't certain when one of them will be complete. If your best guess is a month, give us that, say July.

So your entry would start like this:
JULY

The next line is your group's name. I think the vast majority of fan films are live-action outings, but if you're into animation, audio, or puppets (!), your second line would be this:

Lost Frontier
or if it was animated: Lost Frontier (animated)

Now the third line might be tough if you have several projects in the hopper. My recommendation is that you choose the one that looks like it will be ready the soonest.

Let's say it's "The Moon Glowed Green." (That's just an all-purpose line I use when I don't have a sci-fi title.)

And lastly, the website where people can find your latest masterpiece. Most of the time, this is either the group's website or a YouTube location.

So we get this:

JULY
Star Trek: Lost Frontier
"The Moon Glowed Green"
www.lostfrontier.com

Again, I realize some won't even be able to meet a monthly deadline, but let us know if there'll be a delay, and I can update the listing of the projects.

Let me say again that I'm not trying to put anyone down with this post. I just think it's helpful for all the fan films to have as close to a deadline as they can manage, but my hope is that future films can be listed in time for a little bit of Mo Mentum to take place.

I hope this helps.

Randy

 

[Melonpool]

We haven't shot a frame of ours yet -- and technically, it's not intended as a fan film -- but it is based on Star Trek: The Motion Picture and is using a lot of the same resources as the fan films. Is this something you'd like updates on? We're shooting for a Summer 2011 release... and the cast is made up entirely of puppets, so it has that going for it.

 

[doubleohfive]

>>One of the great things about the fan film community here is that when you get people on the same page and everyone understands that we all have the same goal in mind, these kinds of things don't get so overly blown out of proportion, as exampled here.

You and I, however, have failed in that same interaction over the last few days. I honestly don't even remember what the big brouhaha is all about anymore. I simply wanted LOST FRONTIER to not be misrepresented.

If you're goal, Randy, is as altruistic as you purport it to be, and all you really want to do is have a concise list of upcoming fan productions, it's a simple fix of just listing Lost Frontier in the 'Release Date Unknown' section.

I am truly, honestly, and sincerely mystified as to why that is so seemingly impossible.<<

OK, who are you and what have you done with Double? You didn't call me a "dickhead" even once.

I am not proud of that comment from the other day, and if I could take it back I would. Instead, I'll simply offer my apologies for letting my passion get the better of me in that reply to you.

That said, you again completely disregarded everything you just quoted from my previous post to continue this petulant back-and-forth.

Part of the problem is posts like this one:
>>You are exploiting a minor irrelevancy (because you likely have no true appreciation for the quality control and process involved with producing an audio drama) to service your overarching incredulity, again, 'just to stick it to us.'

I said it before -- you're as transparent as saran wrap with this charlatan behavior.

If you're going to remove Lost Frontier, or not include it solely because of the logic you listed above, not only are you being a hypocrite toward us, you're also doing it in full public view of anyone who can fire a few neurons and connect the dots while reading this thread. You're playing favorites, and it's obvious as hell.<<

Yeah, that kind of treatment always wins me over....

Randy, when you ignore the points I make as to why I feel the way I do, in favor of just making more reactive, nonsensical temper tantrums, it signals to me -- as I'm sure it does to many others who read this thread -- that you are incapable of having a rational, civilized and mature discourse on the issue, nor able to consider suggestions or well-intentioned critiques.

 

[doubleohfive]

Let me start by saying that I don't mean to put anyone down with this, but I want it to be as simple and easy as I can make it. Also, I fear that some folks just go to the list to see if their production is in the week's entry, but I do my best to follow a pattern that I think works in the fans' favor without overwhelming the film makers.

Let's look at two entries from a recent Friday listing.
>>RECENT RELEASES
Star Trek Defiant audio series
Episode #47: “Listening”
http://www.pendantaudio.com/defiant.php

Starship Farragut Animated
"The Needs of the Many"
http://www.farragut-animated.com/needs.html<<

Since this thread is as forward-looking as I can make it, I start off with the date. That doesn't have to be so much of a struggle. Some of the big dogs (including Romulan Wars, it seems) can give me a specific date when their effort will be available online. But I realize that's a luxury many fan film makers don't have. So just try and narrow it down as much as you can.

If you don't have the day, give us the week, and if that's not certain, the month within the June-July-August period. Let's use Lost Frontier for an example. Let's say that you expect to have one of your 18 (!!!!!!!!!!!!!) episodes ready but aren't certain when one of them will be complete. If your best guess is a month, give us that, say July.

So your entry would start like this:
JULY

The next line is your group's name. I think the vast majority of fan films are live-action outings, but if you're into animation, audio, or puppets (!), your second line would be this:

Lost Frontier
or if it was animated: Lost Frontier (animated)

Now the third line might be tough if you have several projects in the hopper. My recommendation is that you choose the one that looks like it will be ready the soonest.

Let's say it's "The Moon Glowed Green." (That's just an all-purpose line I use when I don't have a sci-fi title.)

And lastly, the website where people can find your latest masterpiece. Most of the time, this is either the group's website or a YouTube location.

So we get this:

JULY
Star Trek: Lost Frontier
"The Moon Glowed Green"
www.lostfrontier.com

Again, I realize some won't even be able to meet a monthly deadline, but let us know if there'll be a delay, and I can update the listing of the projects.

Let me say again that I'm not trying to put anyone down with this post. I just think it's helpful for all the fan films to have as close to a deadline as they can manage, but my hope is that future films can be listed in time for a little bit of Mo Mentum to take place.

I hope this helps.

Randy

Well, for starters, as I have said numerous times, we just plain don't have a specific date or time we can give you. We are working on the 18 episodes all at once so we can release them without too much of a delay between each show.

I don't know how many times I have to explain that.

Once a batch of episodes (say, the first six) are done, they'll begin to be released, while we continue work on the next six shows.

It's a 'tiered release' schedule.

So, when your previous editions of "Upcoming Fan Productions" updates are structured like this:

Since we're starting a new thread, I figured I'd put a list of new stuff out there so folks don't have to go back to March/April/May. Here we go:

RECENT RELEASES
Starship Farragut Animated
"The Needs of the Many"
http://www.farragut-animated.com/needs.html

Starship Excelsior audio series
“The Pursuit,” third season episode
http://www.starshipexcelsior.com

Star Trek: Phoenix
"Cloak and Dagger” (pilot episode)
http://www.stphoenix.com/

Star Trek Defiant audio series
Episode #46: “Caged”
http://www.pendantaudio.com/defiant.php

Star Trek: Osiris
Conclusion of “Eclipse,” its two-part pilot
http://www.stosiris.com/

Frontier Guard (Hidden Frontier)
Episode #110: “Gallant”
http://www.frontier-guard.com/

Star Trek: Kobayashi Maru
DMAC6806 at Go!Animate
http://startrekreviewed.blogspot.com/2009/06/63.html

Star Trek: In Thy Image
DMAC6806
http://startrekreviewed.blogspot.com/2009/06/63.html

NO RELEASE DATE GIVEN
Star Trek: Phase II
“Enemy Starfleet”
http://www.startrekphase2.com/

Star Trek: Imperium
http://startrekimperium.net/

Star Trek: The Romulan Wars Part 3
http://www.stromulanwars.com/index.html

Star Trek Requirius Parts 2 and 3
https://sites.google.com/site/startrekrequirius/

WARNING: “MATURE” CONTENT
Star Trek: Lost Frontier
Introduction and 15 audio episodes
http://www.darkerprojects.com/lostfrontier.php

Star Trek: Dark Frontier
"Reclamation,” the last in a five-part series
http://vimeo.com/11731801

...which, by the way, does NOT conform to the structure you just described in your last post...

...it becomes quite confusing to me why requesting that Lost Frontier get added to the "NO RELEASE DATE GIVEN" section is so troublesome and difficult a problem when it is seemingly not a problem for Phase II, Romulan Wars, or Requirius. I asked this same question about this very same exact issue up thread and it continues to be ignored. Why?

So, unless this format you described in such exhausting detail is the "new" format you've adopted, I would hereby ask respectfully that if you include Lost Frontier on any upcoming lists, to please do so in the "No Release Date Given" section, and for clarity's sake, minus the mature content warning.

 

[Captain Randy Hall]

We haven't shot a frame of ours yet -- and technically, it's not intended as a fan film -- but it is based on Star Trek: The Motion Picture and is using a lot of the same resources as the fan films. Is this something you'd like updates on? We're shooting for a Summer 2011 release... and the cast is made up entirely of puppets, so it has that going for it.

You might want to start your own thread on your project. If it's going to still be in the works after Labor Day, that would be really stretching the concept of this tread, but I'd sure like to get a peek at it when it's ready to go.

 

[Captain Randy Hall]

>>Randy, when you ignore the points I make as to why I feel the way I do, in favor of just making more reactive, nonsensical temper tantrums, it signals to me -- as I'm sure it does to many others who read this thread -- that you are incapable of having a rational, civilized and mature discourse on the issue, nor able to consider suggestions or well-intentioned critiques.<<
Not with you, apparently.

 

[Captain Randy Hall]

>>Well, for starters, as I have said numerous times, we just plain don't have a specific date or time we can give you. We are working on the 18 episodes all at once so we can release them without too much of a delay between each show.

I don't know how many times I have to explain that.

Once a batch of episodes (say, the first six) are done, they'll begin to be released, while we continue work on the next six shows.

It's a 'tiered release' schedule.<<

So what happens when other groups come calling, telling me they have a "tiered-release" schedule just like yours and don't even flame me for several days in their effort to get posted?

Maybe if you spent as much time working on your project as you do posting flames in here, you might be able to rell me the title of even ONE ouf of 18 episodes that would come out sometime during an entire MONTH. I thought I was bending over backwards to try and fit your information into the format. I should have known better.

>>it becomes quite confusing to me why requesting that Lost Frontier get added to the "NO RELEASE DATE GIVEN" section is so troublesome and difficult a problem when it is seemingly not a problem for Phase II, Romulan Wars, or Requirius. I asked this same question about this very same exact issue up thread and it continues to be ignored. Why?<<

Phase II announced a new episode about a month ago and previewed it at a fan con over in Europe, so that's a reasonable risk, I think.

Romulan Wars has announced they'll be releasing their third and fourth episodes sometime this month. Once I get a date and a title from them, that will be included in the list. Since they had already released the first two episodes as well as a fifth show, that wasn't too tough to keep around for a while.

But I wouldn't get too attached to having Requirius and Imperium in that section. I haven't heard anything from them in a while, and I've been deciding which entries will stay in or be pruned from the "NO RELEASE DATE" section.

 

[doubleohfive]

>>Randy, when you ignore the points I make as to why I feel the way I do, in favor of just making more reactive, nonsensical temper tantrums, it signals to me -- as I'm sure it does to many others who read this thread -- that you are incapable of having a rational, civilized and mature discourse on the issue, nor able to consider suggestions or well-intentioned critiques.<<
Not with you, apparently.

What do you expect me to say in reply to this? Every time I try to be reasonable, every time I try to be rational, all I get back from you are curt one-liners.

How about trying to meet me half-way here?

 

[doubleohfive]

>>Well, for starters, as I have said numerous times, we just plain don't have a specific date or time we can give you. We are working on the 18 episodes all at once so we can release them without too much of a delay between each show.

I don't know how many times I have to explain that.

Once a batch of episodes (say, the first six) are done, they'll begin to be released, while we continue work on the next six shows.

It's a 'tiered release' schedule.<<

So what happens when other groups come calling, telling me they have a "tiered-release" schedule just like yours and don't even flame me for several days in their effort to get posted?

Maybe if you spent as much time working on your project as you do posting flames in here, you might be able to rell me the title of even ONE ouf of 18 episodes that would come out sometime during an entire MONTH. I thought I was bending over backwards to try and fit your information into the format. I should have known better.

First point: I can't control what other productions do. You will have to be the arbiter of how to handle them if that particular scenario arises. As any manager or leader knows, you can't have a blanket answer for every situation that comes up. Context is key.

In the context of Lost Frontier, I have explained twice now what the situation is. Only your stubbornness and bias against our production is preventing you from being reasonable about all this.

Secondly, I don't appreciate your insinuation that I'm not spending "as much time working on my project." I could fit everything you don't know about me in to the Grand Canyon and still have stuff left over, Randy. I'm trying my damnedest to have this conversation with you without stooping to insults, pot-shots, or other nastiness. There's been enough of that, and I certainly admit my own complicity in it. But it's getting us nowhere and I'm not going to get pulled in to a temper tantrum fight again. I'll thank you to do same and to stop making such baseless assumptions.

In conclusion, please remove Lost Frontier from your listing. I don't want our production to have anything more to do with you, Randy. You are obviously letting your personal bias interfere with your objectivity and clearly have no interest in listening to our show or promoting it properly. It's a shame, too, because if you ask around, I think you'll find that it's actually a damn good piece of fan-produced serialized storytelling.

A final word of advice: If your goal here is to be the go-to guy for fan films, to be the one-stop-shop for every production on the 'net, you really need to learn how to deal with people. Thus far all you've done is alienate (to my current understanding) not one, not two, but *three* separate productions.

Is that really the legacy you want to have?

 

[Captain Randy Hall]

>>How about trying to meet me half-way here?<<

I tried that and was promptly flamed for my effort.

 

[boobatuba]

>>How about trying to meet me half-way here?<<

I tried that and was promptly flamed for my effort.

No, you really haven't. You've shown all the sensitivity and grace of a five-year-old throwing a temper tantrum in the toy department of a department store. It's about time somebody else stood up and gave you a sound tongue-lashing for it.

For God's sake...all they asked you to do was remove the "Mature Content" label. Now, after much more patience than I would have shown, they've finally just asked to be excluded. Mission accomplished, sir!

The good news is that you really can just take your list and stick it. Anyone really interested in Star Trek fan films can simply use Google or any other search engine and find the material themselves.

Oh yeah...in my opinion, of course.

 

[Captain Randy Hall]

>>I tried that and was promptly flamed for my effort.<<
>>No you really weren’t.<<
So being called a “dickhead” is what, a term of affection these days?

>>It's about time somebody else stood up and gave you a sound tongue-lashing for it.<<
And of course, the last several pages were merely examples of kind and gentle persuasion.

>>The good news is that you really can just take your list and stick it. Anyone really interested in Star Trek fan films can simply use Google or any other search engine and find the material themselves.<<
More gentle persuasion. Now I understand why there wasn’t a thread like this when I started it, and why there won’t be one after I stop. People are just too busy flaming others who are trying to do something worthwhile. Oh, well. I hope you have a good time over at Google.

See, when you guys decide to flame someone, that's just calm, rational people straightening out some poor schlemp But when I do it, I'm being a crybaby and everyone in the world now hates me. Right. You folks must be really proud of making me regret ever starting this topic. But of course, no one wants to take over the reins. I guess it's hard trying to flame yourself.

 

[doubleohfive]

>>I tried that and was promptly flamed for my effort.<<
>>No you really weren’t.<<
So being called a “dickhead” is what, a term of affection these days?

Go back and re-read my last post, Randy. I apologized for that comment.

>>It's about time somebody else stood up and gave you a sound tongue-lashing for it.<<
And of course, the last several pages were merely examples of kind and gentle persuasion.

>>The good news is that you really can just take your list and stick it. Anyone really interested in Star Trek fan films can simply use Google or any other search engine and find the material themselves.<<
More gentle persuasion. Now I understand why there wasn’t a thread like this when I started it, and why there won’t be one after I stop. People are just too busy flaming others who are trying to do something worthwhile. Oh, well. I hope you have a good time over at Google.

See, when you guys decide to flame someone, that's just calm, rational people straightening out some poor schlemp But when I do it, I'm being a crybaby and everyone in the world now hates me. Right. You folks must be really proud of making me regret ever starting this topic. But of course, no one wants to take over the reins. I guess it's hard trying to flame yourself.

No, Randy. The whole bit about you being a crybaby comes from your complete refusal to be reasonable about any of this. At my every attempt to reconcile with you, you have summarily taken the hostilities, the passive-aggressive whining, and the victim complex even further. The more you continue to hold this grudge, to be immature and just keep lashing out, the more immature you appear to be.

I'm not going to bother with it anymore. I've said my piece and it's patently obvious to anyone reading this thread what has transpired.

I will again ask that you remove any and all listings for Star Trek: Lost Frontier from your Fan Film Friday listings. Thank you.

 

[Barbreader]

Yep. Much easier to just have my own little blog. I get to be dictator-in-chief. Speaking of my own little blog, if you are looking for already released, ready-to-watch Star Trek fan films, Star Trek Reviewed may be your best bet. If you dislike me, just skip my reviews and use the links. They work for Communists and Plutocrats, Democrats and Republicans, people who hate William Shakespeare and people who think he's a god, people who think TOS is the only legitimate Trek and those who love all the series, people who love bald men and people who love hairy ones... oh, and people who prefer women, too! (I'm a strait woman, so to me...Yech! But some of you are strait men!) I am even working on sections for people who have to use Google Translate to read my blog but who speak languages other than English in which Fan Films are available! A dozen, two dozen, six dozen fan films may be released over the next year. But you can't watch them TODAY. Why not look at something you can watch today? Worry about those up and coming films when they've upped and came! You can't watch them until then, anyway!

 

[Captain Randy Hall]

This week's list has several changes, starting at the top.

TUESDAY, JUNE 29
Star Trek: The Romulan Wars
Part 3: “The Wings of Icarus”
http://www.stromulanwars.com/index.html

AUGUST
Star Trek Requirius
Episodes 2 and 3 of the series are slated to be released in that month.
http://www.starshipintrepid.net/comp...showtopic=5466

RECENT RELEASES
Star Trek: The Machinima Generation
“A Voice for the Voiceless”
http://www.youtube.com/user/pcolapatt

Star Trek Defiant audio series
Episode #47: “Listening”
http://www.pendantaudio.com/defiant.php

Starship Farragut Animated
"The Needs of the Many"
http://www.farragut-animated.com/needs.html

Starship Excelsior audio series
“The Pursuit,” third season episode
http://www.starshipexcelsior.com

Star Trek: Phoenix
"Cloak and Dagger” (pilot episode)
http://www.stphoenix.com/

Star Trek: Osiris
Conclusion of “Eclipse,” its two-part pilot
http://www.stosiris.com/

Star Trek: Dark Frontier
“Reclamation,” conclusion to a five-part storyline
(Episodes DF 101 and DF 102 contain material the producers say is “explicit content,” but the five other voyages are classified as having “general content.”)
http://vimeo.com/11731801

Frontier Guard (Hidden Frontier)
Episode #110: “Gallant”
http://www.frontier-guard.com/

Star Trek: Kobayashi Maru
DMAC6806 at Go!Animate
http://startrekreviewed.blogspot.com/2009/06/63.html

Star Trek: In Thy Image
DMAC6806
http://startrekreviewed.blogspot.com/2009/06/63.html

NO RELEASE DATE GIVEN
Star Trek: Phase II
“Enemy Starfleet”
http://www.startrekphase2.com/

 

[Barbreader]

Star Trek Requirius has posted these release plans at the Intrepid boards:
At the moment episodes 2 and 3 are to be released back-to-back in August followed by episode 4's release in September. After that episodes should be released about a month apart. The majority of the episodes will be filmed in July and August giving time for post-production in the fall for episodes 5-9. The last episode should be released around January so that we can start off on Season 2 in February or March.
(This is the planned schedule but it is due to change)
http://www.starshipintrepid.net/companel/index.php?showtopic=5466

 

[judge alba]

hey randy thanks for posting the links to other fan productions half of them I've never heard of.
but I shall definitely be checking a few out especially the romulan war one

 

[Captain Randy Hall]

Star Trek Requirius has posted these release plans at the Intrepid boards:
At the moment episodes 2 and 3 are to be released back-to-back in August followed by episode 4's release in September. After that episodes should be released about a month apart. The majority of the episodes will be filmed in July and August giving time for post-production in the fall for episodes 5-9. The last episode should be released around January so that we can start off on Season 2 in February or March.
(This is the planned schedule but it is due to change)
http://www.starshipintrepid.net/companel/index.php?showtopic=5466

Thanks for the tip, Barb! Since I still can edit the file with all the films listed in it, I'll go back and get that upgraded.

Randy

 

[Captain Randy Hall]

hey randy thanks for posting the links to other fan productions half of them I've never heard of.
but I shall definitely be checking a few out especially the romulan war one

Thanks for the kind words, Judge. If you want to catch up before the new episode is released, go over to http://www.stromulanwars.com/index.html for the group's first two episodes. What they sometimes lack in art, they more than make up for with heart.

 

[ares93]

anyone know where i can find a torrent or rar of the star trek hidden frontier series. i wont have internet for nearly a month no and i need to ease my withdrawal symptoms from star trek.