Unpopular Trek opinions game

Discussion in 'General Trek Discussion' started by ED-209, May 15, 2019.

  1. CorporalCaptain

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    Don't get me wrong, TBH seriously blows, but it has its charms, chiefly its unique visuals, the good cast, and the music. And, despite the disappointing execution, the premise is kind of epic.

    Is that the Stella Star film? Sadly, I've never seen it.
     
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  2. Greg Cox

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    Yep. To be honest, nearly have I, but its dubious reputation precedes it.

    As for THE BLACK HOLE, I remember being underwhelmed back in 1979, and giggling through the old cowboy robot's "tragic" death scene, but perhaps I should revisit it some day.
     
  3. JirinPanthosa

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    I haven’t seen Starcrash, but I don’t know. A movie you can enjoy laughing at for its terribleness is better than Nemesis. A movie that gave a death unbefitting of such an iconic character. Doing retroactive harm to previous good stories is worse than just being terrible.

    Unpopular opinion: Royale is the best comedy episode.
     
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  4. CorporalCaptain

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    ... voiced by Slim Pickens.
     
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  5. Kor

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    Starcrash is worth watching just to see the one and only Christopher Plummer as Emperor of the Universe looking like "What am I doing in this travesty?" :lol:

    Kor
     
  6. Crazyewok

    Crazyewok Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Agree as it it never had telepathic mind rape.

    My unpopular opinion.
    Star fleet is a military!
    It had a military rank structure and fights wars!
     
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  7. The Old Mixer

    The Old Mixer Mih ssim, mih ssim, nam, daed si Xim. Moderator

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    Agree! How they choose to brand themselves doesn't change what they are and what they do.

    My opinion: And they do use some form of currency, too. Let's just get it all out there!
     
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  8. USS Triumphant

    USS Triumphant Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Yet somehow, "Wag The Dog" and "Battlefield Earth" both escaped your wrath?

    (If you haven't seen them: don't. Unless you feel like you deserve punishment for something, because they'd fit the bill. ;) )
     
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  9. Soong-type Android

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    So do I. Episodes like 'The Enterprise Incident', 'The Tholian Web', 'The Empath', and 'Day of the Dove' among others more than make up for 'Turnabout Intruder', 'Spock's Brain' and 'Plato's Stepchildren'.

    Unpopular opinion: Enterprise B, C and E are a better design than Enterprise D.
     
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  10. Nyotarules

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    Why did I pick this one to reply to since I don't give shit about designs :rofl: But will say disagree since the Enterprise D bridge made no sense whatsoever. What's a barrier doing between ops/tactical and the captain, etc? Why on earth did none of those silly ships have seat belts?

    Starfleet is a terrancentric organisation and so is institutionally racist. Ignore the real life reason for TOS but how many non human admirals, senior officers and crew did you ever see in those ships corridors?
    They would fail a present day diversity test; TOS is NASA in space and TNG is NASA + the EU in space. The mirror universe TOS had a better mix and they were the bad guys!
     
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  11. Vger23

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    Agree on Star Trek V, which is actually one of my favorite movies in the franchise. Totally disagree on Insurrection, which is the only franchise movie I actively dislike.

    Agree....it's silliness...

    Disagree. None of the TNG movies were particularly good, but FC was the most tightly presented. I actually put FC and NEM ahead of the two you've listed. INS was garbage, and GEN was such a convoluted mess...its only redeeming qualities are the TOS cast, great cinematography, and an excellent soundtrack.

    Very much agree...I can never really figure out what the knock is to be honest. Strikes me more as "groupthink" than any kind of real, grounded opinion.

    Agree...although it's relatively close.

    Agree on the E...disagree on the others.

    New Hot Take:

    Data is a great character, but many of the Data-centric episodes are awful (Data's Day, In Theory, Descent 1 and 2, Elementary Dear Data, Most Toys, Hero Worship, Fistful of Datas, etc).
     
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  12. Greg Cox

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    As I understand it, he only worked for three days and mostly agreed to it because a free trip to Rome (where the movie was filmed) appealed to him.

    As for BATTLEFIELD EARTH, I've never seen it . . . although I once came dangerously close to editing a prequel to it. The book was on the schedule, the contracts had been drawn up, an author was lined up . . . then the deal fell through at the last minute.

    Dodged a bullet there! :)
     
  13. Kor

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    He lent a bit of Shakespearean gravitas to this production.





    But back to your regularly scheduled Trek discussion...

    Mostly agreed, though I like "Fistful of Datas" for comedic value. And I'm a sucker for westerns.

    New one:

    "The Alternative Factor" is just fine.

    Kor
     
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  14. Soong-type Android

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    A huge L. Ron Hubbard sized bullet.
     
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  15. Ovation

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    He seems barely able to restrain himself from bursting out in laughter near the end.
     
  16. Nyotarules

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    Definitely not The Sound of Music
     
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  17. Vger23

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    Agree to some extent. It's not the unmitigated disaster some make it out to be, for sure.

    New One:

    Nemesis is a better film than Generations or Insurrection.
     
  18. Lord Garth

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    Agreed. Not even within the genre. My least favorite sci-fi movie is Red Planet (2000), directed by Antony Hoffman and starring Val Kilmer. That's two hours of my life I'll never get back.

    Now for the trump card (dun dun dun): Emperor Georgiou is my favorite character on Discovery.
     
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  19. Vger23

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    I like her too...perhaps not my favorite, but definitely like her.

    Here's an even better one:

    Wesley Crusher is not the worst "main character" Star Trek has given us.
     
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  20. Tosk

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    Disagree. GEN and INS at least feel a bit like TNG did, they just fail at being good movies. NEM doesn't give me the TNG-ness I want, and fails at being a good movie.

    The Inner Light is a boring episode.
     
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