Unpopular Sci-fi/ Fantasy movie opinions!

Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by Flying Spaghetti Monster, Jun 12, 2010.

  1. LitmusDragon

    LitmusDragon Commodore Commodore

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    Battlefield Earth is actually kind of weirdly entertaining. If you're watching it for the unintentional humor value.
     
  2. MANT!

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    Independence Day sucks balls...
    Armageddon sucks balls...
    Highlander sucks balls...

    The Fifth Element was the supreme space fantasy of the 90s...


    Bladerunner is boring...


    I robot is actually a decent film..along with Bicentennal Man...
     
  3. Goliath

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    Since our experience of movies is mediated through our own bodies, it follows that when we discuss movies, we're really just discussing our own reactions to those movies.

    That is to say: when people talk about movies, they're really just talking about themselves.

    For this reason, a person's opinion about a movie tells us a lot about that person, but nothing about the movie itself.

    If a movie is popular, it's because it has caused pleasant reactions in many people, and unpleasant reactions in only a few.

    Since the whole purpose of entertainment is to cause pleasant reactions in people, it follows that the most popular movies are the best movies. As Mickey Spillane put it: "If the public likes you, you're good."

    If the most popular movies are also the best movies, it follows that the least popular movies are the worst.

    And for this reason, if opinions about movies are unpopular, it's because they deserve to be unpopular.
     
  4. tharpdevenport

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    Had Pike stayed the captain, the Enterprise was a saucer instead of the classic design, and someone else like William Lava composed the main theme, TOS would be another forgotten sci-fi TV series.
     
  5. stj

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    We are informed that the purpose of entertainment is create pleasant reactions. The inevitable conclusion? Pornography gives the viewer the most intense pleasant reaction. Ergo, pornography is the best kind of entertainment. (And hypocrisy keeps us from admitting it is also the most popular kind of movie.

    Scary movies and tear jerkers don't fit very well into the pleasant reactions scheme. Nor do roller coasters and crossword puzzles, which are also widely regarded as entertainment. Has anyone ever ridden a roller coaster or solved a crossword puzzle for anything but entertainment?

    Is this irony? Or just making fun of people?
     
  6. The Borgified Corpse

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    I thought most people agreed that Armageddon was horrible.

    I thought people generally agreed with you about The Fifth Element too. After all, if you're talking about movies, there really aren't that many space fantasies from that era anyway. The only other ones I can think of are Lost in Space (crap), Star Wars: The Phantom Menace (crap), Stargate (decent but gets an inflated reputation due to the TV spin-offs), and 4 of the Star Trek movies (variable).

    Agreed. While the production values are godawful, The Final Frontier is the only Star Trek movie to truly take advantage of the great Kirk/Spock/McCoy triumvirate. And the stuff with Dr. McCoy's father is absolutely heartbreaking.

    I haven't seen The Postman yet.
    The Book of Eli is an average-to-mediocre action movie bolstered by unsurprisingly strong performances by Denzel Washington & Gary Oldman.
    The Road is an unrelentingly depressing movie. I put it into the same suicide-inducing category as A.I. & Donnie Darko.

    Actually, nearly every film critic in the country agrees with you. I'm still not entirely sure how it happened that 2 sci-fi films were nominated for Best Picture that year and neither one of them was Moon. From what I've heard, District 9 was ambitious but uneven. Meanwhile, I'm convinced that the only reason why Avatar was nominated was so that liberal Hollywood could cheer on its simplified environmentalist message.

    Some of my unpopular opinions...

    Wonderfalls deserved to be renewed more than Firefly.

    Slave Leia isn't sexy. I've seen lots of other women in that costume who can make it sexy. But Carrie Fisher has a very masculine chin. I can't get past that.

    Indiana Jones & the Temple of Doom is just as good as Raiders of the Lost Ark and The Last Crusade.

    Ghostbusters 2 is just as good as the 1st one, if perhaps not as fresh.

    Spider-Man 2 was an angsty mess that derailed the franchise long before Spider-Man 3 came along.

    Daredevil is a great movie, a heartfelt exploration of the soul-sucking stresses of being a superhero.

    Up & Wall-E are 2 of the worst movies Pixar has ever made. Whenever people praise Up, they seem to be only talking about the 1st 10 minutes, not the trainwreck that followed. Wall-E has a lot of good bits but I hate eco-guilt trip movies.

    Conan the Barbarian is boring as hell!

    While these aren't unpopular opinions for an "unpopular opinions" thread, I do feel it needs to be said again that Blade Runner is uber-boring and 2001: A Space Odyssey is the world's greatest 30 minute short film wrapped inside 90 minutes of stoner crap.
     
  7. milo bloom

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    Doesn't the Doctor only have a limited number of regenerations? McGann only had the one movie, and then Eccleston only had one season. Then Tennant only does 3 and a half seasons. I just wish they could lock these guys down for more than a short amount of time.
     
  8. Gojira

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    Generations is actually a pretty good Trek movie

    Godzilla 98 is a fun and enjoyable Godzilla movie

    Star Trek: The Final Frontier is a fun and enjoyable movie.

    The Star Wars Prequels are just as good as the originals

    Independence Day and 2012 are also fun popcorn munching movies.
     
  9. Gojira

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    I disagree with you about Independence Day and Armageddon (haven't seen Highlander) but I agree with everything else you have said.
     
  10. The Borgified Corpse

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    They mentioned that at one point, I think some time back during the Tom Baker years. I also suspect that, if the show is still going strong when the 13th Doctor decides to quit, they will either ignore the regeneration limit or find some way around it, like the Master did.

    And David Tennant is the 3rd longest lasting Doctor in the history of the show, after Tom Baker & Jon Pertwee. 3 years is pretty average for a Doctor. However, you may end up getting your wish. From what I've heard, Matt Smith is under contract for the next 5 years.

    Unpopular opinion: David Tennant is way overrated as the Doctor. While I liked his early seasons, by the end, I was so ready for this insufferable overactor to leave. (I think he had a lot of potential but should never have been paired up with RTD. Both of them have a tendency to go way over the top, reenforcing each other's worst habits. Christopher Eccleston had a more suitable, subtle approach, where he was often able to give his performance an unexpected twist just at the moment when the scripts were skewing towards overwhelming melodrama.)
     
  11. Myasishchev

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    Immanuel Kant posts on Trek BBS.

    I could buy that, actually. If trapped on a desert island with a DVD player, a TV, and an enigmatic power source, but only one DVD of my choosing, I'd rather have a good porno than a good mainstream movie.

    It's kind of a shame that porno is often left out of aesthetic discussions.
     
  12. Dusty Ayres

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    The Lost In Space movie (1998) is better than the 1964-1968 TV show that it's based on, and should have gotten more sequels as of this writing.

    The Star Wars prequel trilogy speaks to us all about the United States and the mess that its in.

    Voyager's characters were better beings than BSG's, and Ron Moore should realize this.
     
  13. Canadave

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    Conclusion: The BBS needs a Pornography and Erotica forum.
     
  14. Orac Zen

    Orac Zen Mischief Manager Super Moderator

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    Undoubtedly an unpopular opinion, and one with which I agree (almost) completely.
    Agree with this, too. :bolian:
     
  15. tomalak301

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    I really wonder what Doctor Who would have been like if Eccleston stayed on another year. He was great as the Doctor (Of course being the first I saw kind of makes things biased) but I like Tennant just because he was there a lot longer.
     
  16. Shazam!

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    LOL What a load of shit.
     
  17. Andrew_Kearley

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    Oh, I see... No, I wouldn't worry about that. They haven't mentioned it for years, and they'll deal with it when the time comes. If the show's still being broadcast and is still successful, then they won't end it just to satisfy some obscure point of continuity from thirty years ago that hardly any of the modern audience will know about.
     
  18. Andrew_Kearley

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    Yes, you can put me down for this one too - it pretty much sums up my feelings on Tennant's tenure.
     
  19. Hermiod

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    If we're allowed to include TV as well.

    - Christopher Ecclestone was a poor choice for The Doctor and Billie Piper was one of the worst companions I've ever seen.

    - David Tennant was only slightly better.

    - Russell T. Davies run on Doctor Who was generally of poor quality with only a few things (the season long story arcs and a few episodes and ideas here and there) to redeem it. The show had too much shouting, unnecessary running around, celebrity cameos, predictable stories with villains looking for various random MacGuffins and so on.
     
  20. Deckerd

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    This is an unnaturally polite thread. Everyone's agreeing. I have a bad feeling about this.