Uhura: Engineer, not linguist

[JonnyQuest037]

The fact that you can't pick out exactly where his waist is also adds to the effect.

 

[Orphalesion]

These are better:

*Imagines Levar Burton, Brent Spiner, Michael Thorn and Johnathan Frakes in those*

Thanks, Frakes' chest hair poking through the collar of his Season 1 uniform was bad enough (seriously, couldn't he have shaved that?) I don't need to see his (probably equally hairy) legs...

 

[Alter Ego]

Imagine Picard in that outfit. "Make it so!"

 

[Captain Rob]

Everybody in ho boots and capes.
Cancelled after 13 episodes.

 

[Alter Ego]

Wait a minute....why did Picard and Riker wear red? Shouldn't it have been green/gold like in TOS?

 

[BillJ]

Wait a minute....why did Picard and Riker wear red? Shouldn't it have been green/gold like in TOS?

Stewart looked better in red.

 

[Marsden]

But in Purple, he's stunning!

 

[Orphalesion]

Wait a minute....why did Picard and Riker wear red? Shouldn't it have been green/gold like in TOS?

I think the reason for that switch was that they though that the movies had established red as the colour of command and authority.

 

[T'Girl]

Data as the ship's second officer probably should have been wearing the same color as Picard and Riker. TPTB though that gold looked better with the actor's makeup.

 

[BillJ]

Wait a minute....why did Picard and Riker wear red? Shouldn't it have been green/gold like in TOS?

I think the reason for that switch was that they though that the movies had established red as the colour of command and authority.

Nope. Original plan had gold as command but Stewart looked better in red. Data was originally suppose to be in science blue, but Spiner in makeup looked better in gold.

 

[Orphalesion]

Wait a minute....why did Picard and Riker wear red? Shouldn't it have been green/gold like in TOS?

I think the reason for that switch was that they though that the movies had established red as the colour of command and authority.

Nope. Original plan had gold as command but Stewart looked better in red. Data was originally suppose to be in science blue, but Spiner in makeup looked better in gold.

I knew the bit about Spiner, not the ne about Stewart. One of the reasons I wish they hadn't hidden Spiner under all that grease paint.

I have been looking around the net to find where I read about the reason but I can't find the quote, can you cite anything? (i'm not disbelieving you, just interested)

I mean I can perfectly see it, the mustard/ocher shade TNG used looked pretty drab while the dark red looked more striking and you want to dress your stars in the more striking colour.

Personally I aways thought the TNg colours made perfect sense:

Red: The hero/power colour -> command
Yellow(really mustard): drab, almost military looking -> security/operations
Blue (Really teal): calming, soothing -> medical and sciences

thiugh of course red as an aggressive colour also makes sense as the colour of the security teams...

 

[Alter Ego]

I think the reason for that switch was that they though that the movies had established red as the colour of command and authority.

Nope. Original plan had gold as command but Stewart looked better in red. Data was originally suppose to be in science blue, but Spiner in makeup looked better in gold.

I knew the bit about Spiner, not the ne about Stewart. One of the reasons I wish they hadn't hidden Spiner under all that grease paint.

I have been looking around the net to find where I read about the reason but I can't find the quote, can you cite anything? (i'm not disbelieving you, just interested)

I mean I can perfectly see it, the mustard/ocher shade TNG used looked pretty drab while the dark red looked more striking and you want to dress your stars in the more striking colour.

Personally I aways thought the TNg colours made perfect sense:

Red: The hero/power colour -> command
Yellow(really mustard): drab, almost military looking -> security/operations
Blue (Really teal): calming, soothing -> medical and sciences

thiugh of course red as an aggressive colour also makes sense as the colour of the security teams...

I really like your process here! What's more, it works perfectly!

 

[T'Girl]

I mean I can perfectly see it, the mustard/ocher shade TNG used looked pretty drab while the dark red looked more striking and you want to dress your stars in the more striking colour.

Spiner wasn't the star of the show when costume colors were being decided on, later with fan approval and show writer interest he "moved up."

 

[J.T.B.]

Data as the ship's second officer probably should have been wearing the same color as Picard and Riker. TPTB though that gold looked better with the actor's makeup.

My impression was that "second officer" was not a job in itself but just recognized the position in the chain, the next ranking officer after the F/O. So Scotty would have been "second officer" in TOS, though the term was not used. IIRC Data's "full time" position was supposed to be operations officer. He did wear red a few times, though; I thought it looked OK.

 

[Orphalesion]

I mean I can perfectly see it, the mustard/ocher shade TNG used looked pretty drab while the dark red looked more striking and you want to dress your stars in the more striking colour.

Spiner wasn't the star of the show when costume colors were being decided on, later with fan approval and show writer interest he "moved up."

Sorry, I meant Riker and Picard who were supposed to be the original stars ^-^

 

[Timo]

My impression was that "second officer" was not a job in itself but just recognized the position in the chain, the next ranking officer after the F/O. So Scotty would have been "second officer" in TOS, though the term was not used.

...And indeed the burden of being Second Officer might have rotated regardless of the actual job of the officer in question. After all, there's nothing explicitly wrong as such with Spock in "The Enemy Within" claiming that he's the Second Officer for the duration of that adventure. The ship might still be reeling from the personnel losses suffered at the far frontier in the pilot episode, and top officers would be reassigned time and again to best fill the vacuum until the ship could do a proper personnel refill at a starbase; at times, Spock might be the First Officer, at others, the Second.

As for the colors, since there's nothing explicit about their role in Starfleet (in TOS at least), we could just as well claim that the three colors refer to the three shifts aboard the starship. It's just that department heads and valued specialists would need to do a bit of off-shift duty during emergencies and demanding operations - so Spock, the boss of the Blue Shift, is almost invariably there next to Kirk when the exalted Gold Shift handles the adventure of the week and people from the Red Shift stand by, "in reserve" for sudden errands such as landing party duty.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[The Old Mixer]

There were two Kirks on board, so I guess Spock got bumped down in the hierarchy for the duration.